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 00 - Menu and editors
 01 - First words				Hyde/Complex
 02 - Busted or not busted			Hyde/Complex
 03 - New comers				Grendel/Byterapers
 06 - Harley davidson - men men, one dream      Death/Exotic men
 09 - News and rumours				Editors and Eddie of Action
 26 - Finnish modem news			Der HM/Complex
 29 - Society party report			Heatbeat/Rebels
 31 - Another Society party report		Grendel/Byterapers
 40 - Anarchy party report			Judge Drokk/Anarchy
 44 - Eces party report				Vibrillion/?
 46 - Frantic party report			Hyde/Complex
 47 - Maximum pleasure party report 		Agnus/Flashing bytes
 50 - About diskmags				Tony/Agony
 51 - Swap-hint					Zakka/Prime
 52 - 2400 bps, curse or blessing ?		Ax the Alien/Probe
 53 - Openletter from Zelkick to Bastards	Drops/Zelkick
 54 - Interview of Darkangel/Abyss		Hyde/Complex
 57 - Interview of Stranger/Agile		Hyde/Complex
 59 - Interview of Stookie/Dual crew		Hyde/Complex
 65 - Fintelcom					Al/Legend
 66 - Doors movie report			Ax the Alien/Probe
 67 - Finnish groups				Commie/The special brothers
 70 - Scene report from Lahti			Catman/Wizzcat
 72 - Denmark and the danish scene		The Pride/Flash production
 75 - Old finnish scene				Grendel/Byterapers
 83 - Finnish upload charts			Zebra/Scoopex, Haka/Dual crew
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FIRST WORDS OF ISSUE 10! ======================== Hello everybody!!! Complex is again presenting a new issue of Maggy for you. New routine is made by Proton of Complex. Releasing was delayed because Proton's amiga broke down. That's why. Future issues will be more advanced than this one. This time Mic Dair did all editing because i wasn't avaible during July and this issue will be released in the end of July. So BIG thanks to Mic Dair! If you didn't know by now there have been many changes in Complex Crew...some guys were kicked out and some taken in...Python, Mr.Niceguy and Zoltar are out! And Braggart, Cockatrice (again), Dean and Der HM are now taken to Complex Crew. Hopefully these new members are doing great job for Maggy in future. Now we have two boards here in Finland so all articles for Maggy can be downloaded to them. Please notice that Maggy is still in English...so no articles in finnish or any other languages. This isn't understood 100% because we still got big bunch of articles written in finnish.(Hello to Orion and Procoyn of Equinox!) These articles won't be released...sorry guys! Ok...time to let you to enjoy this magazine...And keep articles and other stuff coming...I like clearing a full postbox! Yours : Hyde/Complex ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


BUSTED OR NOT BUSTED... ======================= In the news of last issue (9) of | After couple of chats I finally made MAGGY was a text 'Hyde and Mic Dair/ |him convinced that it was a joke... Complex are busted by police...'. |But one of his friends still had a Well, as few people know it was just a|strange attitude about us...He even joke. Police just asked our ID-papers,|threatened to use violence against and it was no computerbusiness at all.|Mic Dair...btw. Mic Dair actually didn't |take part in our 'joke'... So if u still hear some rumours about| us, you can be sure that we ain't | Ok, that's it...now you should know really busted. |that we ain't busted by anyone... Yeps, it was just a joke...but some | Well, sorry if you lost your peace of guys didn't understand it...perhaps my|mind...No hard feelings...at least from 'sick' joke was too harsh and complex |me. to understand. Atleast a local modem- | swapper was really afraid of police | then he heard that i was busted. So he| started to hide his equipments & | format disks. He called some locals | and told them what had happened to | YOURS : HYDE/COMPLEX me... | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ But then it was time to tell him that| it was just a joke...ofcourse he didnt| like it...First he even didn't believe| that it was a joke.... |


NEWCOMERS by Grendel / Byterapers Inc. There has been strange comments by newcomers about us, the OLD ELITE-groups. "what's so good at you", "what makes you better than we are", "where are you demos?" has a SONIC-lamer said to Hoffi/BS. No respect at all. Even Bloodsuckers is always better than some Sonic, even without making anything. BS is old group, and HAS MADE more than it's part for scene. Most groups come and go, live just for half-year, or year. BS's been around since 88 or 89, and has released more demos & all than some SONIC can never dream about. It doesn't matter they haven't released anything for some time. THEY DON'T NEED TO. Bloodsuckers are famous already, because what THEY HAVE ALREADY DONE. What's the most important, they have all the abililities to continue making good products, if they want to. But same sickness has struck them, that sticks into each old group that exists long enough. LAZYNESS. When one has done enough work, they need rest. And scene is sometimes stressing thing, I have noticed it personally. Once I was a big, fast swapper on 64. I started on 85 by tape, 86 by drive and 88 was the fastest Finnish swapper. Why? I had 150 (yes it's true) contacts at once (at once, repeat), and you can imagine what work it was. I even quitted school to swap (true!). I got money by writing to magazines, and that money was used to swapping. 30 sendings a day on 64, for a long time. Finally the stress came. I had to drop contacts, and finally quit swapping. Pause, swapped then on Amiga, but had to stop. BURN-OUT had happened. Until this date, ANY swapping has been a nightmare to me, TWO YEARS AFTER THE BURN-OUT. Each old group sometimes reaches the point when they get lazy. Some groups just die. Some continue exist but do nothing. Some exist, and try do something and VERY FEW manage to rise again. Finnish examples: COMPLEX-->


Bloodsuckers exist but do nothing. Complex are again rising up, after long time of invisibility. Accession exist but do nothing. Byterapers tried to rise, fell, were almost dead 3 months and try to rise once again. Wizzcat was silent for a long time, but have risen again. Digitize Design Group exist but do nothing. Finnish Gold has practically died. X-Men has practically died. Beyond Force were almost disappeared, then rose again, and have currently sunk a bit as they're converting from 64 to Amiga. SO WHAT'S THE FUCKING POINT IN SAYING "WHAT'S SO DIFFERENT AT YOU" or "WHERE ARE YOUR DEMOS?". Fuck we have already done our part, and if we continue to exist all you newcomers should be glad of it, not asking where are our products. We, the old groups and the OLD ELITE GUYS, have developed the scene for you. If you don't have any respect for us, you better sell you computer and go fishing. Hoffi didn't get free entrance to Sonic's party, which then didn't even exist. Hoffi deserves his free entrance, if he wishes so. I've never begged for free in (mostly I've arranged the parties), but Hoffi has his principle on free entrance - DON'T NEWCOMERS GO ON FUCKING TO HIM - HE'S BEEN IN SCENE FAR LONGER THAN YOU, and done more than you will never do. He wouldn't be that famous, if he was some dickhead as some others. I heard I personally have got some strange critism from newcomers too. "What that Grendel thinks he is?". Trying to be boss of (B), telling guys what to do and throwing guys out of Byterapers while he does nothing. And is the only one in world who thinks Byterapers is alive, when all know it's fucking dead. CONTINUE-->


HAHAA what fuck that is.. I am me, Grendel. I boss (B) because I am the founder & leader. I've always bossed the group, and it's all my own creation. I made Byterapers big on 64, I found & guided the guys who made it possible, I worked hard for it - I THOUGHT IT AS A JOB, WORK, not as hobby. I succeeded in it, but hard work for 2 years it was. On Amiga we have never been so big, but the 64 memories live, and I AM FUCKING PROUD OF IT. Go on asking any 64-guy. I made Byterapers the 9th best cracking crew in the world at 89. It has always been my group, my creation and has always lived with me. When I'm down group is down but when I'm inspired group starts rising again. And I bet I know my group better than anyone else in the world,better than any newcomer who never had 64 and has been in scene for one year. I think I know better if it's alive or not - from February to April group was practically dead, but I've now worked to get it on its feet again, and now Byterapers is going to rise again. Guys are working and products are coming, but this time MY group works on different basis than NEVER BEFORE. So stop speaking shit. Newcomers are disease in the scene. They don't know anything about the past, give a strange look if you say Pure Byte, Warriors Of Darkness, Megaforce, Fusion, Ikari or Ackerlight. They don't respect the old guys or old groups. But....The Scene would also wither without them. What to do?


HARLEY-DAVIDSON - two men, one dream! Driving down to sunset. Highway opens against your very eyes. The feeling is stunning. You hold your breath and just drive. Hairs are fluttering behind your shoulders. You can feel the freedom. Nothing is able to stop you now. The engine is purring with its low sound. This is life, you think. This is life. That was the dream of two men named as William S. Harley and Arthur Davidson. Their company was founded in Juneau Avenue, Milwaukee early this century. At the beginning it was just a hobby for both of them. But after building their first one cylinder engine for their new motorcycle, they realized that this was to be the work of the future. Those days motorcycles were used only for transportation and a bit later for racing. People didn't trust too much to those new machines as they caused so many death accidents on the roads. Many times in local races the bodies were often founded not until the whole race was over, when the competitors were able to see some- thing under the dust. But motorcycles kept their positions and so did Harley- Davidson too. New bikes started to exist as many little companies were inte- rested in them. People saw soon, that it was much easier and faster to move with bikes instead of cars. But the big revolution was still to come. Harley-Davidson took its place as one of the best motorcycle companies already in the very beginning. It had only a few considerable competitors like Indian or Excelsior. But as the time went by they dropped off. In 1929 Harley-Davidson came up with a new model, which was named as H-D 74. It was already a success and showed the way to walk for other companies. In the 30's The company was satisfied with 74 and didn't try to mix too much the formula. So all the Harleys from those days are a bit of copy from 74. London was the center of cyclists on those days, and if one wanted to see the whole world of bikes he travelled to London. Also Harley-Davidson got influences from the CONTINUE-->


European bikes with their massive, almost horizontal, single-cylinder engines. That can be seen for example in SS 350 from year 1969. But that was not the only thing Harley was recognised. They were one of the major companies developing the v-twins engine(V2). First one was introduced in 1911 and it was to come the leader of the whole new form. In the beginning somebodies were suspicious about the engine in which both cylinders were against each other in even 90 degree angel, but that didn't bother Harley-Davidson. They also invented the handshift to motorcycles, which is still nowadays a bit weird without talking of those times. Handshift can be seen specially in Fatboy, which is quite a popular Harley. The wild 50's and 60's were still to come, but the movement was already easy to notice. In London the drivers began to gather together and faster bikes were needed. Rock'n'roll was one of the main reasons. It was popular within the youngsters and they wanted to see bands alive. And there was only one choice to move from place to place: motorcycles. The best, or the worst, competitors of Harley-Davidson didn't quite succeed to reach the fifties before they died. So the company became the king of cycles all alone. They produced 5 new models during the 60's and 70's and within them there were some golden ones like the famous youthbike Electra Glide. Bikers got influences also from movies. James Dean became one the most worshipped actors, and everything he did was something to be imitated. That was also when he drove Harley-Davidson in his movies. The bikes had finally reached their real meaning. They were symbols of freedom and youth. That time were born the massive cyclegangs like Hellangels or Deathangels, which described those days with their own unique way. Every young people was a bit of a rebel. Nations were in hands of change. But Harley-Davidson managed to survive. The company has grown up as one of the largest motorcycleproducers. Early days only a few dozen units were made for business. By comparing it to nowadays' half a million units, everybody can see that the change has been obvious. Harley-Davidson connects all the drivers around the world and it has come almost a myth. Many people are collecting those fine machines. And CONTINUE-->


whenever somebody is driving with Harley it always turns the looks of others. The most popular bikes nowadays are Roadster and earlier mentioned Fatboy. There are meetings for Harley-drivers in almost every country, and even more clubs to join. If you want to be something, This is THE way to start. Harley-Davidson is going to live forever! - Death of EXOTIC MEN Sources: The motorcycle world by Phil Schilling, The illustrated encyclopedia of motorcycles by Erwin Tragatsch and Historic motorcycles by David Burgess Wise.


NEWS AND INFORMATION... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- There were wrong information in D.I.S.C 7 about Sentinel...It's not a co- product between Dictators and COMPLEX...Complex have a own mag and it's this what you reading at the moment...MAGGY! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bruno/Anarchy and Tip/Phenomena will compose sounds for a cooperation sound- disk. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bruno/Anarchy will quit the Amiga-scene after this sounddisk. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Also Firefox will quit the scene. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Maestro/Flash joined Soundwizards (found by Grubi and Axel of Brainstorm). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'The best of Axel' will be released in late summer (BRS-sounddisk III). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Swapperjack/Euphoria has never been a Dual Crew member and will never be that. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- N.O.M.A.D has not joined Dual Crew. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Scoopex U.K Hq 'Arcadia' is now a Dual Crew board. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Northstars 'Dragons Lair' Hq is now a Dual Crew board. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Snuskbuske of Dual Crew is the NO:1 top uploader in Sweden with more than 1 GIGABYTES. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Smooth Criminal issue #3 is soon to be released. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks to Stookie/Dual Crew for Dual Crew news. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------



------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Flashing bytes are going to release new mag called Trader. It contains only advertisements and news. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Style is dead. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Spreadpoint got lots of new members from Style and they will release bit more productions soon. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eremation is dead. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Flashing bytes have now over 25 qualified members ! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ceremony is dead. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Energy (Storm) and Flashing Bytes (Agnus) wanted to make a cooperation packdisk at TRSI party but a saddam-virus destroyed some disks! The pack was released one day later. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- More coop-packs coming from Storm of Energy and Agnus of Flashing bytes. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Masquerade lost their world HQ. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Disaster of Coma left Coma and rejoined Pirates. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Changings in the PLK-system in Germany : Hack-Mag (Mr.x) was wrong, there are absolutely no PLKs allowed in Germany after July 1St so forget those PLK- adresses in Germany after that date. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cheap modems are sold in Germany. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------


------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pod has left Slipstream and has now joined LSD. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cryolite ex-Scoopex uk joined Flash Productions Uk and changed his name to Crest...and after this he left Flash and joined Rebels Uk. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mig has left Epic and has now joined Cyrus. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pseudo soft /Mayhem Nz is quitting the scene. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Members of Betrayal Uk are now Punishers Uk. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Watchman of Complex has left the scene. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alien of Society is kicked out and now he has joined to Probe. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- New diskmag coming from Shadows. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Catman (wizzcat) is lame. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jetaza and Paralysis are now in Vertigo. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- New Vertigo board in Sweden and it's sysopped by Paralysis. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tetragon is coming back after 2 years silence. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Image kicked out their Ushq. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A new norwegian group has born M A S S I V E. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------


------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RamJam Finland has born! At the moment, they have only one member, a graphician in Kajaani. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Intuition SF is dead. Some members went to Amaze. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bootflash of Codebusters changed their groupname to Titus. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Titus is buying wares... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRSI asked Rebels SF to join them but Rebels refused. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fast, clean & safe phonesex still available at the same number. Noow also for girls and gays! Call today : +358-(9)86-121649. Ask for TANJA or PENTTI! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRSI is making comeback, atleast they said so. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mainswapper of Titus has no Amiga. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mad Mat was kicked out from Wizzcat. He will reform Odex with Prime Premium and Dean from Society. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The lamers newcomer in the finnish scene : New Kids On The Block (AAAARRGHH!) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A musicdisk with only Heatbeat's tunes will come out later this year from Rebels. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A guy called Prince was a member of 5 different lame groups at the same time. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Extabulator of Society is looking for a new girlfriend and maybe also for a new group. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------


------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pinhead of Anarchy got his driving licence and is now driving and driving around his home town all the time. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Mc.Body was busted by a teacher when he was smoking at school! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SCUP-Scandinavian United Playboys - has now a new section in Finland : Lenigrad Cowboys! Members of the new section are EinoLeino and Borje Svensson. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Odex is working on a 'Horizontal Insanity'-demo (haha!) It might be released at the Society summer conference... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Shining comes from Sweden and they don't want to be mixed up with any other groups like Shining 8. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Shining is formed by Adept, ex-Publix Enemies and Elite Inc. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Defjam Bbs, Pleasure Point is dead. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thunderdome is now Defjam Ushq. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chrome will release new advertisementmag. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Team called 'Probe' is created. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alien of Society is now AX the Alien of Probe. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hoffi left Bloodsuckers ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cockatrice (graphician) joined Complex -------------------------------------------------------------------------------


------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Commie left Sonic!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stargazer left Sonic!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The special brothers are looking for cool finnish coders and modem traders! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jukkis/Nikki corruptions will leave the scene soon! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wiper joined Bastards! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tony left Sonic ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Blitman left Sonic ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jack/Sonic left the scene!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Squat Left Sonic ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Boomer was kicked out of Sonic ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cruzifix left Energy and joined The special brothers ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Survivor/Prologic was busted from faked stamps... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Commie & Stargazer joined The special brothers ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Vector designer v1.2 from TSB will be released soon!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Undertaker tried to join The special brothers, but he wasn't cool enough!!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------


------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Supermann joined Fairlight ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Blade joined Shock ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Next issue of JOLLY ROGER will be released soon!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Optima/Jetset joined to Spreadpoint ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Death bringer/North star joined Agile ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The special brothers opened new board in Germany called SILVER MOON!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tyrell left Vectra and joined Dual crew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Phobos/Midnightsun has almost stopped swapping!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Worm/Scrapers joined Exit ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Commie/The special brothers was busted from faked stamps! If you have written to him and haven't got answer then recontact him!!! (Btw, he got only warning and lost some disx to post office!!!) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR. DMA was kicked out from D-Mob ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Some members of Intuition joined Amaze ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tjr/Wizzcat stopped swapping becoz he got summerjob from Finland and he didn't take his Amiga with him! He'll continue swapping at September... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- D-Mob will release megademo soon! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------


------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rebels got their first board from Usa. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sir Arthur/Nikki corruptions and Gern/Midnightsun are coding game for Avesoft (finnish software company)!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Shadows will release new issue of "4 Swappers" soon, send free ads to Ghoul/Shadows ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Complex won 1st and 3rd prizes at Society's partycompo. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sawblade of Frantic sold his Amiga. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nomad of Crystal sold his phone. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stranger of Image has some problems with custom. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- New advertisement-mag coming from Chrome. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Python joined Frantic. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Also Coma and Equinox are planning to make advertisement-mags. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tiger left Endless Piracy and joined Fairlight and then he went back to Possessed. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tiger of Possessed left the scene for a while because on the Cebit 91 the police arrested him. They found weapons and drugs in his bag. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Angel Dawn of Possessed joined Jump. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------


------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Judge didn't take lead of Byterapers when joined. Grendel is leader, as being since 1987. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Frantic's coder Harri K. left for army, and the much-praised demo was left unfinished. Now Frantic's other members try to finish it by themselves. Unlike rumours say, Harri K. IS NOT JUST A computertechnology-student, having nothing to do with scene. He studies it, right. But he's as much scene-man as anyone of us - just doesn't praise or show himself. THAT'S THE RIGHT WAY! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- At 25-28.7. will be Bloodsuckers / Byterapers / Scoopex party at Parikkala Finland, arrangers being Merit Corleone /BS and Grendel/(B). It will have biggest arrangements to this date,and lots of events & good prices. For any machine that dares to come! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Image recracked their version of Railroad Tycoon. When you use fixdisk on their crack, you will find a Crystal intro from the disk! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rumours about Byterapers dying are all wrong. Group almost died to internal problems, while founder/leader Grendel was two months in army. Now everything is restored, and (B) is again expanding and working for future. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Swedish group RAGE claims to be in cooperation with Byterapers, while Byterapers' leader/founder Grendel has never even heard about any Swedish Rage! Lamers have never enough of bull... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In older Euronews was said,Byterarapers claim themselves oldest still alive group. Wrong. Group is the oldest still alive in Finland, first seen on 86, but by no means claims to be oldest still alive. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------


------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stranger of Image was catched from importing modems etc h-ware to Finland, without paying taxes. Currently,13.6., Stranger's whereabouts is unknown and rumours say he has fled the country - with many people's money! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Python (ex-Byterapers) was thrown out of Complex just after releasing Maggy 9. Reason: they were not satisfied to Maggy's routines and Python overall. Now Python is being tested for Frantic. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Small birds say Society's party's musiccompetition was fixed! They said Heatbeat/Rebels was beforehand agreed to be the winner! And there was better tunes than winner in competition... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Grendel/Byterapers has worst luck in world. First he ordered a 2400 modem. No sight after 7 months. Then he orders a 386-PC worth 14100 FIM (3700dollars), waits it 4 weeks - post has lost it. Finally machine was found, but after 4 months monitor/mouse are still lost. Then he orders a HST. Package was lost between USA/Finland. Then another HST. Seller was caught from paying no taxes Then many packages were lost in post, some were robbed of disks. What next? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Complex rose in TWO minutes to Finland's leading demo-group at Society's party. They won both 1st and 3rd prices... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kannibal (ex Skid Row), JS (ex Dual Crew), Extabulator (ex Society), Dark Young, Jonez, Randor (freelancers) have joined Byterapers. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Grendel/Byterapers is planning a closed inner-circle winter meeting at Tampere. Elite's may ask more info... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Argon has now also division in Sweden. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------


------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nimrod is a new member in Vertigo. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lomi301 of Argon stopped swapping. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Argon has got 2 new modemtraders in Germany. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Super Trouper is the name of a new Static bytes BBS. The number is +45 42 40 47 45. It's running up to 14400. Sysop is Howard and co-sysop is free ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hawkeye and Playboy of Prologic joined Static Bytes. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dial +45 97 12 26 38 and ask for Susanna to get some VERY nice phonesex. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PRIME is not dead! The Finnish Division of Prime never died !!! Other guyz from Germany etc. spreaded rumours of their dead, but they (the Germans) didn't propably know, that Prime SF even exists...Prime will continue making some products in Finland and maybe soon in other parts of EUROPE!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6 new members joined to Amaze Sweden. They are Buntz (sysop), Enforcer (music), Gipzy King (coder), Guardian (music), Zoniz (swapper) and Traz (Gfx). They all are ex--members of THE GANG and AIRWALK. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- New Amaze board in Sweden sysopped by Buntz. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Vertigo is almost dead, best members left them ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Braggart (ex Vertigo, sysop of Concealed dimension) joined Complex ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Der HM (ex Image, sysop of the Watchtower) joined Complex -------------------------------------------------------------------------------


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wraith of Anarchy SF left the scene - Bruno's MusicBox III will be his last piece of coding. Also musician Griffon of (A) is searching for a better crew in ware supplying, which has been one of the problems in (A) SF. Golem and Bruno will continue in Anarchy, although Bruno's activies are not so sure. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Smirre left Vectra and is now independent -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Damones, a new finnish group -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Zoltar (musician) is kicked out from Complex -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr Dma joined Accession -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dean (musician) joined Complex -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eddie left Vertigo and joined Skid row -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eddie left Skid row after 5 hours and joined Action with Ice/Vertigo -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Shocker left Energy and has now joined Pirates -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- the Striker joined Coma -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Wall (advertisement mag) comimg soon from Next -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Griffon/Anarchy joined Frantic SF -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Turtle and Python of Frantic SF are back in Byterapers -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Heatbeat/Rebels, Dweezil/Rebels, Golem/Anarchy , Jhl/Afl and Extabulator of Byterapers are forming a new group. Name is unknown at this time.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eagle Soft Inc. is back ! They got their original supply back & another cracker from USA... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Oracle will be back too, Weetibix will be the main cracker again ! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Vision Factory is already back, old VF dude called Kilroy started it up again Sycon (ex-TSL) joined VF too -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Slash/ex-Defjam joined The Company -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AXXIX of Skid Row was kicked out, he joined Scoopex -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Scoopex got new division from France -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To order cheap HST modems, call : 708-982-5092 (This is the official USR Bulletin board system) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Scoopex's ancient member "Freedy Krueger" came back from Iraq, so now they have their "Boiler Room" again... Bulldog opened 2nd node for it ! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Scoopex got a board with 7 nodes.. It's called "Wares for masses" it's sysopped by "Goobug" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Motherboard I, which recently joined Skid Row was harashed by someone called Lord Thanos... He claimed that he was a cop and he tried to black-mail some money from Touch Tone -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Danse Macabre is THE new Company WHQ with 2 nodes, as The Skeleton left them to become IndependAnt and King Cobra left'em to start forming his own group --------------------------------------------------------------------------------


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alliance Design/Quartex will release their new demo shortly -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Martens joined Rebels -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eddie lost his phoneline temporarily, becoz of a fucking big phonebill ! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hoffi left Bloodsuckers to join Action... However he'll stay in Bloodsuckers party-division ! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Call the new Action board in Finland ... Thunder$truck +358-71-345294 ... ONLY HST guys will get in.... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Braggart, who joined Complex is going to put his board (Concealed Dimension) down for some time until he gets motivated again... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jetaza/ex-Vertigo is now Independent too -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bigfoot's BBS has an own War-conference for Richie Rich/Action vs Sycon/VF -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pennywise is also coming back -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Porta left his own group "FAST" (ex-Miracle) to join The Company with Sauron ... Diablo joined Crystal and Sabbath The Vandal joined Agile -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rage left Scoopex to join Action and Kappa left Slipstream to join ACN -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rastan joined the IBM scene, he'll be supplying originals to SR though -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Reeeeet-Mon actually got his "Ansi-conference" to work with help from SPLATT! of Fairlight --------------------------------------------------------------------------------


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fashion Light is also independent nowadays -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Slash lost his modem, becoz he was trading in the middle of a Thunder He has already ordered another one... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Skeleton/Independant! got another line for his Pirate's Ship... The second node's number has only been given to a small amount of people... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Crystal is going to have 2 weeks holiday from cracking... They will be back dominating later on (Atleast THEY say so...) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Swayzar's Primitive Future is down temporarily -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Slash & Overlord merged their accounts on some boards -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Overlord left Skid Row -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Maniacs Madhouse is back ! Midnight Maniac had an horrible HD crash ! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brain Dead/Action had a shitty HD crash too.. He lost ALL his user info etc So, call his board if you had an account there or if you want it anyway... number of the board is : 203-225-5482 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Loner joined Quartex with his board "Metropolis".. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Beast left Scoopex to join Quartex with his board "Arcadia" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Martyrium (Classic WHQ) will change it's number to : 713-666-4093 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anarchy's Mystic Places is actually an FAST board... (513-746-4532) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Touch Tone/Skid Row will move to pennsylvania, so his board number will change... He will also buy one more node to his board (So, it'll have 4) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Action might be getting some problems, becoz there was another group with that name already... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Al left Society and joined [L]egend... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andeveron (sysop of The Ghetto) was asked to join Skid Row 3 times... He refused to join... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Danse Macabre opened Foxy's Fortress again... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Prokem got some problems with AT&T.. After solving them he moved away and closed his Pleasure Point -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Defjam has been VERY inactive lately... Rumours are spread that they are going to be back at September... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stone (Defjam's French original supplier) was busted by cops... He lost his modem, but he'll be back ! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rebel and Gaston joined Fairlight -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rebels got an board from USA called Pantheon, it's sysopped by Vortex -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Newest available Tempest version is P, it is 100% Ami-Express compatible -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Disc Shoppe is back in Scoopex --------------------------------------------------------------------------------


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A new group is born...EXTREMEA! All guys in Extreme are ex.members of Euphoria except for these : Griffon (ex.Anarchy), Ozark (ex.Tetragon) and Rogi (ex.Horizon member on the C-64, now moved to Amiga...). We have now 22 members spread in 5 countries. As all the members from Euphoria joined Extreme, Euphoria is dead. This means that from now on you should start greeting us as Extreme! New members are welcome, look in the adverts for our WHQ address. Well, that's all. Get ready for hearing from us againg soon...! Signed : The whole mob of EXTREME! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dual crew uk and some members of ex-warfalcons has joined wizzcaT -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wizzcat has opened a new SfHq called LIGHT LINE call:+358-18-841074 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- All Wizzcat boards in Norway are kicked out of Wizzcat Also many members in Norway section were kicked...... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Arise is a new group... It was founded by some members of Coma sf and Iris sf -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mindblaster of ex-Wizzcat has joined Vision -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Raze of Accession joined Wizzcat, C(F)OOL! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------


FINNISH MODEM SCENE NEWS Ugh. Thousands of years have gone since the last Maggy - and its scummy Finland modem scene article. I don't waste the space by telling ALL the things that have happened during the time between when Maggy # 9 was released and NOW - let's just mention the 'biggest' things.... One can still count the 'elite' BBS's in Finland with one hand: (in the alphabetical order so nobody'll kick my a$$ ..heh) Concealed Dimension, Night Shift, Thunderstruck, Watchtower and Zoo. Smaller BBS's HAVE come out - Coma, Arctic-Team and Sonic HQ's for example - but they have not grown as popular as the before mentioned ones. Just as information for those who didn't know, some prehistorical facts: Pirate's Cove & The Power Plant died (or changed to lame public BBS's) and Drunk Land died because of the money difficulties. Anything new about these 5 Finland-ruling tradeplaces....? NIGHT SHIFT (Sysop: Stranger/Image) -The sysop finally limited the 2400 bps faggots' access... -...and the busy level (which was highest in SF's elite BBS's! hehe) decreased dramatically! -The sysop (Stranger) was an object to a TONS of rumours during his Cyprus trip... ('Cops caught Stranger! The finnish toll and Man&Man (hardware importer&dealer) caught Stranger with his hardwarebusiness! Stranger has escaped the country with THOUSANDS of marks of other people's money!!) In fact Stranger was laying under the Cyprus' sun and when he came home he noticed no marks of any police etc. action..... HM. CONTINUE -->


CONCEALED DIMENSION (Sysop: Braggart/Complex) -CD moved back to AmiExpress after a short Tempest period. -Finland's first H/P/A area was opened. -Sysop got a larger HD... (330 MB, perkele!) -The BBS changed the crew from Vertigo to Complex in July. THUNDERSTRUCK (Sysop: Hoffi) -The sysop left Bloodsuckers and is now a member of Action (But Bloodsuckers partymember forever..!!) -BBS's message base has grown the biggest and SICKest! Loads of bullshitting about sex, facism, racism, violence and pervert things! And despite of that the file section keeps fast enough... -Tempest software still going strong! THE WATCHTOWER (Sysop: Der HM/Complex) -Was set up in April '91! -BBS changed from Image HQ to COMPLEX HQ about in the same time as Concealed Dimension. ZOO (Sysop: Zebra/Scoopex) -Zoo began to use multiple credit system for Finland & World firsties etc. .... the thing spread almost all over Finnish BBS's... then somebody started bitching about it and everybody quitted the system or at least decreased the use of it radically. -The sysop began to do Finnish uploader chart with Haka/Dual Crew. Also a new Image Headquarters was set up - a BBS called No Man's Land, running with a3000... (ah) and JHL/Alpha Flight set up a TBB(?) HQ called Zenlandia...! Frantic's BBS Krematorium was only a couple of weeks up and then went down for MONTHS because of some HD disaster (don't you hate when yer HD does that?). CONTINUE -->


------------------------------------------------------------------ Ex-Sonic modemtrader -Squat- came not a very popular guy after he compiled a 2 meg porno & horror slideshow with his pal from old digitized pics and spreaded it to every BBS (ofcuz taking a 'world firstie' (even 5x!) credits in the BBS's where it was available... everything went fine until the next day (when he was finished ANOTHER slideshow already!!) the users & the sysops began complaining him about the prog and he suffered TONS of credit losses...heh! ------------------------------------------------------------------- Raze is trying very, very hard to set up a BBS of his own but the difficulties are numerous. First, he got 5000 FMK's phonebill. Second, thunder blew up his HST. Third, he was kicked out of Accession. Fourth, he still fights with AmiExpress trying to understand its endless possibilities (heh!). Well he (=his parents) bought a new HST, paid his phonebill, bought a HD and for some reason or another a 2nd HD.... bullshit or not - you be the judge. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Boredom bugs finnish modemtraders. Scumbag/Crusaders quitted trading for a while, perhaps once and for all. Sawblade/Frantic sold all his equipment as he'll go to USA for 1 year. Zebra/SCX is also bored... ------------------------------------------------------------------- Vertigo lost its modemtraders after Sulky Fellow, the only good coder of the crew, quitted all activities. Braggart moved to Complex with his BBS Concealed Dimension, Eddie went to Skid Row and Ice is still thinking where to go. The future of Vertigo is a big question mark... ------------------------------------------------------------------- Goddamn blue boxes don't work in Finland! (at least seem not to) -------------------------------------------------------------------


A LITTLE REPORT FROM THE SOCIETY PARTY IN KAJAANI, FINLAND ON 7.-9. JUNE 91 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm wondering how successful this party overally was. Kajaani (the party town) is far away from the bigger southern cities where the most freaks live, and I thought that nobody wants to travel so long to just get to a party. But I was wrong; about 220 freaks showed up and that's a lot for a Finnish party! The competitions were badly arranged. There were of course the usual demo-, music-, and gfx-competitions and also armwrestling, Kick Off and Stunt Car Racer compos. There was no kind of voting at all, the Society-members just choosed the winners! (That was ok for me b'coz I won the music compo!) Some results from the competitions: Demo: 1. Complex "Vector Preview" 3000FIM + Hard drive 2. Vectra trackmo 1000FIM + Hardware 3. Complex trackmo 500FIM + Hardware The winning demo from Complex was rather nice with very fast filled vectors and a cool animated chainsaw (and other animated vector objects). The demo was coded by Tai-Pan. Atmospherical soundtrack and graphics were done by Jugi. This demo was really worth of the first place! Vectra took the second place in the demo-compo with their trackdemo. It was coded by Smirre the kettu joka jahtaa Peukaloista ja hanhia Peukaloisen Retkissa (cool tv-sarja & sarjakuvalehti!). The demo included a filled vector ship flying around (that didn't impress anyone), and a nice vector landscape. There were also some new kind of keftales in one part. (should I call'em Vectrales?) The third prize went to Complex for their trackdemo. The coding was done by CONTINUE-->


Dalton(ex. Tom). There was a nice picture in the beginning, painted by Jugi. The soundtrack was composed by Turtle of Frantic. Music competition: 1. Heatbeat of Rebels "SCUPPING AROUND" Midi, X-MEM + 40 disks 2. Dean of no-group (he might join Complex) 100FIM 3. ?????? Heatbeat's compotune was somekind of Big-Band-Synth-Hip-Hop-Hup-music. Yeah, Heatbeat showed once again how wonderful, exciting and excellent sound he can produce at his private studio with his 65 1/2 bits-DAT recorder and other hi-tech equipment(insider-joke!!!!). The tune wasn't bad at all, but actually the reason why it won, was it's name... (SCUP rules 4ever und aamunkoittoon!) Dean took part in the compo with two excellent tunes. He isn't a member of any group at the moment, b'coz he doesn't take the scene so seriously... Other competitions... Golem of Anarchy won the Graffax-compo. Everybody knew that before the compo started... I don't know anything about the other pictures, b'coz I fell asleep during the gfx-competition... Some unknown lamer called Dwarf of Agony won the Kick Off-compo. I'm not sure if there were any prizes in the compo, but I think it was 10 disks or some- thing like that. Viimeiset virret... My opinion is that the party was quite cool. Actually, I think it was the best party I have ever been to... But - it was also the first! (huuumoria) Written by: -=- Heatbeat of Rebels -=-


At Society's party by Grendel / Byterapers Inc. At 7-9.6. small Finnish group Society arranged the first Finnish party of year 1991. To many people's surprise, their arrangements seemed fine and good and prices of democompo were really good. First rumours said there won't come too much people, then they changed telling a lot will come. And just before party many Elite groups cancelled their coming... Anyway over 250 people came. Even before party, some lack of experience was noted... The map guiding to party, by some strange reason, was unreadable around the partyplace. One couldn't read the streets, or even know where north is. What even better, nowhere in invitation was said the name of the school or even street name or number. Seemingly, everyone found the place but it wasn't the easiest job (At Lahti it was REAL hard). In party... We arrived quite early, just 1 or 2 hours after party's beginning. Already there was some folk, not much though. We, (B), chose to share room with Amaze, as I remembered them as very good fellows from my last party (at their room I had my best time...). And then... Small kids, who had never heard about the Amaze guys I asked if they're already here or if they are coming! Later I and many other old guys discussed about Amaze today, and found the sad truth: today's Amaze is a completely different group than the old GOOD Amaze. We wondered what has happened to the OLD, GOOD guys but with no solution. Those new 12-15 years old kids have taken old good Amaze completely over, and eaten the old guys. During afternoon we then changed room, as the previous room was completely filled with small groups/kids. The new room with Complex, Accession and Frantic was a lot better... And so a ELITE-ROOM was born, with groups Byterapers/Complex/Frantic/Accession. When we moved to that room, also Vectra was there but in 30 minutes they had disappeared. CONTINUE->


During afternoon came lots of people in the party. Finally the old record of party-visitors was broken - old record 220+ people was in by previous Byterapers-party, and now 250+. Sounds REAL GOOD! Only real big pity most of them were kids aged 12-15 years, and most of the best chaps didn't come at all. Just small groups around. The ELITE groups at the party were: Wizzcat, Frantic, Rebels, Byterapers Inc., Vertigo, Accession, Bloodsuckers and Complex. And the most noted members of some of those groups in party were: Zerotrack/Wizzcat, Turtle/Frantic, Grendel/Byterapers, Commonist Cowboy & Hoffi/BS, Monster/Accession, Mic Dair & Jugi Pervert/Complex. REST of groups present were: Equinox, Alpha Flight (hmm, can't really count on FINNISH Elite), Titanbytes, Black Robes, Chrome, Coma SF, Vectra, Intuition, D-Mob, Shockwave, Dimension 4, Prologic, Disknet, Special Brothers, Gods, Beyond Force (64-Elite), Skeletors, Prime SF, Cave (was Elite, try to rise again my boys!), Nikki Corruptions, Extend, Fantasy Force, Pro, Amaze (FAKE!), Skiw Row (again, cannot really count as FINNISH elite-group), Astrogate Inc. (what's the point on taking name from old Byterapers-demo for a group? Just asking...), Heavy Duty, Offworld, Parallax, Dual Crew, Profex, Agony, Loctite, Shock, Black Light Inc, Sonic, Energy, Vances, Anarchy (Finnish???), Elysion, Exotic Men and Gemini. Most of those groups were so silent, and mostly could be only noted from their posters on walls. Mostly there was typical party-going... People making beautiful vectors with CUBES and PYRAMIDS and other traditional objects. More people watching in trance how X-COPY copies lots of stuff. Typical, AAARGH! Some change to lameness was when Bloodsuckers started a fight at schoolyard, and broke a 10000FIM video-camera... They were CONTINUE ->


almost kicked out of party. For some reason ushers didn't like us when we climbed to roof, and watched the sun going down.. Hmm.. BIG FUN was watching the arrangers starting a anti-alcohol campaign. Someone was catched with some booze, and arrangers started examining everyone. HAHAAA!!! It was fun, when they found booze from some guys and forced them to empty bottles to sink... HAHAA! Sorry, Exotic Men! HAHAAA! Real fun... Booze talking, funny was also during both Friday/Saturday nights, when arrangers didn't let in some boozed guys! Right, Society! For example Proton/Byterapers had to wait 1 1/2 hours before getting in! Best of all was when some guys moved Proton's motorcycle from its place, and Proton thought it had been stolen! Proton ran out, found his bike and drove it back to its place. THEN USHER CALLED COPS! And Proton spent his night at jail!!! HAHA! Problem afterwards was, that proton might lose his driving license -> lose his job -> can't pay his bank loan -> WHO KNOWS???? Let's hope the best... Also we built a classroom on the roof, openeda window and carried chairs and tables outside. Later we took them inside, to avoid trouble with ushers (one didn't have much humour). Big pity was, that most of the old scene-guys didn't come. In whole party were only SIX (6!) guys who'd been in scene already at 1988!!! YOUNGSTERS EVERYWHERE! We old guys were me, Grendel of (B), Monster of Accession, Mid Dair & Jugi of Complex and Communist Cowboy & Hoffi of BS. All rest didn't come! We missed you, who didn't come! Especially Zebra/Reward/Scoopeksi, Moku/Lennu/Vyvyan/Accession & so on.... Bigger pity was almost everyone in party was so silent... No fun! Silent, copying, coding, sitting.. Doing nothing FUN! Well... Then WE had to make some fun. Following persons were probably the most active at making some ACTION to party: Monster / Accession, Grendel/Randor/Judge / (B), Zerotrack / CONTINUE ->


Wizzcat. Yea! With Monster we attacked many times THE BIG SCREEN where kids were watching new PHENOMENA shit demos, and started to show REAL OLD, GOOD DEMOS! Ahh. MUROMIES RULES! Hoffi-demos, Byterapers Chorus II etc etc etc... COOL! After Frantic came, I just COULDN'T resist making jokes about Frantic... Still when I think Frantic, I have to laugh... First it was small joking with them, then I started making posters and sticking them everywhere in the party... "Frantic - sorry for delays" "Frantic - we rule" (toiletpaper) "Frantic wants lots of new members, take contact to the boss Turtle" "Frantic has joined Zombies" "Turtle of Frantic is now Turtle of Skeletors" "Frantic sold their coder Harri K's sources to Amaze for price of 1 1/2 banana" "Frantic laadusta ei valia" "Silence - Frantic sleeps" "Frantic Finland is now dead, Frantic GERMANY is now only Frantic" and so on and so on. Soon they started to attack back. "Byterapers had to PAY to PRO to get rid of their sources" where I responded "What sources? We haven't done any sources for last year"... "Sorry for delays" was answered "Byterapers - sorry for Grendel". The two toilets were marked "Byterapers HQ Node 1" and "Byterapers FHQ Node 2" (grr, they must have known I absolutely HATE all this HQ shit.. WHY HQ? Why not PQ? Or something else? Or nothing?). "Red Sector Joined also Skeletons". ... Pity, I don't remember everything. Sure it was funny! I enjoyed it a lot! Then joking about Turtle, dat lil fella... More joking about Frantic! We found a half-eaten pizza, it looked REAL ugly. Then we found it: THAT'S FRANTIC! After it, everytime we saw something half-eaten or ugly or pizza, IT WAS FRANTIC! All food-waste was FRANTIC! Then we found PUMPED FRANTIC (ilmapatja)... Funnies was that almost all in party then though I have something against Frantic, when I was friendly joking with them... Yes, also we moved Frantic FINLAND'S CONTINUE->


(how come they didn't like me, when I always talked about FRANTIC FINLAND and GERMANY) HQ to a trash-bucket. We also had taped to floor signs and pointers telling where (B) and Frantic are... Well... Later Frantic could be found from several places... Thanks guys! Without you party would've been much dullier. The gamecompos were good, although there was some problems with getting players to play. I and Monster tried to make small fool to democompo. Accession had made demo Graveyard Party Blues six months ago, but almost no-one had seen it. We tried to change texts, and release it there as new demo. But Monster had left sources home!Hmpfh. We tried and tried to change texts, and everytime it crashed. FInally we tried to enter democompo with exactly same demo as it was released times ago... Perkele, it was disqualified! Someone had told about it! Another funny thing with Heatbeat/Rebels (Repeltajat...). For you, who don't know him. Heatbeat is 14 years old, and also looks so. Little kid with round face. But good, nice boy anyway! You'd never guess who he is, if you don't know him beforehand. So.... Heatbeat was wandering around the party, and came to Amaze's room. He spent some time there, looking at Amaze. Finally Amazes fed up with some little "lamer-type" looking at them, and VERY ARROGANTLY asked "who are you?" (arrogantly!). "I'm Heatbeat of Rebels." And now started terrible bootlicking "you're so great, you make so good music, you are best" etc etc etc. HA! They falled in love with him immediately (But Heatbeat is reserved, sorry! (not for me)). Arrangers had some problems with music/graphics/democompo.... The organization with judging demos was following: Society-members decide the best demos, musics and graphics. No voting. This led to problems. First they only ranked 4-5 best things CONTINUE ->


per compo. NOTHING ELSE! Of about 16 musics only 4 were ranked, of rest was told nothing! SHIT! THIS DIDN'T WORK! Overall this was very bad decision, and people didn't like it at all. Even more: ALL MUSICDISKS WERE STOLEN, and many graphics-disks too. Someone had given to compo his only workdisk - which was stolen - and his three months work was lost! GREAT! Disks could've been kept safer, right Extabulator & rest? The SHOW was anyway good. Society had VERY BIG screen to show demos etc, and two TWO meters high speakers! WHAT VOLUME! WOWW! Never seen/heard anything like it! They had already watched graphics, and did then show the winning graphics in order. Then they started to play compo-musics... People had trouble knowing if a> is this already the competition? b> or are they now showing the tunes in winning order c> or are they just playing tunes? It was C. First came Heatbeat's tune, which also won compo. Then some real cool HEAVY tune (which was better than Heatbeat). Then Moonlight Shadow (if remember right). Then another slow tune. Then Speed-Head/Byterapers' Jesus Loves America! WOW! First patterns were USA-national anthem (psychedelic) and Communist Cowboy/BS took attention and gave honor to the song. Merit/BS started use lighter on his ass, and CC turned and started to hit him. Then CC forced Merit on floor, took his chair and started to hit Merit with chair. WHAT A SHOW! WOOOOO!!!! You should've seen it! Just great. Then CC calmed, and sat down... Listened the song to the end and started to shout "that was the best tune of all! I'm shamed to say this, but Byterapers was the best of all we've heard". This was very amazing, as I had big war with CC last year, police & all were included. Then we made peace, and get again on with each other. But I could never have imagined CC would say something GOOD of (B) ever... HUH! Moment later CC moved a bit to talk something with Monster, and Merit took his chair and gave it to guy behind him. CONTINUE ->


That guy gave chair again back, and within a moment CC's chair was at the back of hall. CC was quite funny when trying to find his chair.... We were naturally sitting at front of screen. Then some demos were shown. Most nothing interesting... Prologic's small demo was real good! All Elite admitted it - it was nice made, not special code but nice small demo. Then came Complex's Vectorpreview! WOW! Imagine the aplouds it got! People calpping like crazy when two more X-Wing-fighter came into screen, and even more when the chainsaw came (probably coz Elite's knew about the saw, and waited its appearance...). And shouting: BEST etc... IF COMPLEX WON'T WINTHE COMPO, WE'LL WRECK THE WHOLE PLACE! Funny was, as Merit sat next to the computer which was used to show demos... There was shown some stupid, usual demo... Merit attacked left-mouse-button. Radical loaded demo again. Merit reseted machine. Radical loaded it again. Now we looked it through. Plaah. Soon came another stupid demo for compo.. Now Radical was careful "no reseting this time" and Merit plugged Amiga off electricity. HAHA! Elders talked later about the musiccompo, and we were not satisfied with it. Today techno-pop is in, and guys who make realistic or otherwise good music are not ranked. For example, when Speed-Head was player at SHOW, it was admitted as the best by many. Even the second HEAVY-tune was better than winner. But because Techno-pop is in, it won. NOT FAIR! If musicians would be ranked how realistic or how good music they can make - the world's Number One musician would be Watchman (Complex). But because his music is not typical..... phh. CONTINUE ->


Competition places went like: Democompetiton: 1. Complex price harddisk + 3000Fim (vector-preview) 2. Vectra 1000Fim+disks+hardw(Sinking Demand) 3. Complex 500Fim + h-ware (Universal Intensity) 4. Wizzcat 5. Scup Musiccompo: 1. Heatbeat/Rebels extramemory + 100 disks 2. Dean/Complex 50 disks 3. Delorean/Vertigo 4. Tyrell/Dual Crew Graphics compo: 1. Golem/Anarchy 5" drive, disks 2. Open Eyes/Offworld 3. Morrison/Vectra 4. Drifter/Vertigo 5. ?/Accession Complex did legendy! Won First price in SECOND PARTY IN ROW. And this time with a REAL demo, not with two years old shit. (still can't understand why people gave to Moonlightning II so much points it won... And best became 3rd... AAARGH) Compos went otherwise with good judgements, but at music-competition tunes shouldn't be judgeg by techno-pop standards. CONTINUE ->


Also later we have heard, that first and second places WERE FIXED! That Heatbeat was before-hand agreed to be the winner! This can really be true, as there was better musics than Heatbeat's one. I don't mean to fuck you, Heatbeat, with this - but this is the truth by many persons. Turtle/Frantic's comments: Good party, but competitions STINK! Too much small lamers. Radical is shithead. Fun war with (B). Overall: Not a bad party. Organizations failed, as they did in my previous party. Anyway things went on better than at Iisalmi. The competitions were poorly arranged, and decision-system for compos was SHIT. The alcohol-policy was good, and you efficiently kept all drunks in hand (I'll never forget the sight, as Merit had two escorts for the rest of party!!! WOW!). Most seemed to have good time, at least I and Monster did from time to time (MUROMIES!). Real good work from first-timers! THANKS! I liked it. Thank you, Extabulator (and Radical & rest...).


THE ANARCHY WINTER CONFERENCE 1991 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ PREFACE ^^^^^^^ This, our first party had been planned for some time. After our initial decision to hold a party we were aproached by Quartex and asked if we would like to make the party a cooperation event. This idea sounded good at the time, Quartex said they would find a venue for the party, after which advertising event could begin, an aproximate date was set, the party was to be held mid November 1990. Weeks rolled on and when November was almost upon us Quartex said they hadnt found a place, so inevitably the party was postponed. Towards the end of November (and without Quartex) plans once again began....... The Venue ^^^^^^^^^ The Party was held inside a school hall and its ajoining rooms and corridors, on Febuary 23rd 1991 in a town called Barnsley which is aproximatly 230 miles north of London, England. The Party! ^^^^^^^^^^ The party was set to begin at 10 am, and run for 13 hours until 11pm. A lot of guys started to arrive just before 10 am, and less than one hout later the bulding was packed with guys. Before long we had to get the caretaker of the school to open up more rooms so could fill them with guys. Most of the UK's groups came to the party, including Quartex, Betrayal, Crystal, Scoopex UK, Subway, CONTINUE-->


Magnetic Fields, LSD, Slipstream and Anthrox. Lots of lamers came too including the lamest most stupid group in England ..Pendle Europa. They arived at the party looking either like stupid american tourists or garbage collectors. They were kept seperate from the rest of the guys at the party by putting them all inside a small cupboard sized room in the front corridor of the building. The Organisation of the party has been maticulously planned, with with the following events planned for the day.. Kick Off competition, Big Prize Raffle (the prize was a Midi-HIFI) a KARIOKE (a fun game which often takes place at disco's/nightclubs, where contenders have to proove their worth by singing to their best ability to a backing track, .. ofter with hilarious results!), and of course the crucial demo and mussc competions. There was all day food and soft drinks, a bar in the evening and a computer hardware stall on site too. All in all this party was set to be the bigest and best ever held in the UK. The number of people attending the party was record breaking for a party in England (which you must remeber is an island) with nearly 300 guys attending the party during the course of the day. One moment everything was going fine, and all the carefull planning that had taken place was paying off, until disaster struck! The worst think that could have possibly happened..... DID! The power went out! Every Screen in the building and every light went out, followed by a great human groan! The caretaker was fetched to solve the situation, a few moments later the power was back, "Hurrah!" said a hundred voices. Sadly that was not the end of the power problem, but eventualy we did receive a smooth and reliable supply, but this came too late for the Kick off off competition which had suffered several false starts due to power cut outs and so was inevitabley cancled. The four winning & runner up trophies were in a draw to the guys who entered the competition. CONTINUE-->


The next disaster was the Karioke equipment never arrived, although the owner did! This next paragraph may sound a little critical of one individual but the arogance of this man was unabound! The demo competition being held in a room just outside the main hall, this was one of two rooms that had a safe powersupply due to being off the main circuit. Before the demo comp could begin OPUS of EQINOXE demanded that the demo competition be cancelled, his reason being that the source code for their demo had been during a powercut before they had chance to finnish it, he also felt that because only six demos were being entered for the competion that this wasnt enought to make it worthy and said that there was no pride to be taken for winning against so few oponents, but nobody else agreed with him, it was just him against the rest of the party, I asked him if he waould be calling for the cancellation of the demo competition "because of lack of entries" if their demo had not been lost, he replied "we would have entered it." What an asshole! How anyone can be so selfish is beyond me! (and everyone else there agreed) In the end, the coder of their demo was called into the room, when asked if HE thought the competition should be canceled because of the loss of their demo he replied "Nooo! I dont care!.. Carry on!" Opus had egg on his face and when he left was probably the most hated person of the day! The demo competition (which was won by magnetic fields) and the rest of the day went sucsesfully. Conclusions ^^^^^^^^^^^ Firstly have to make clear that I am a member of Anarchy, but I hope that some people wont think that because of this, some facts about the party may have been biased in some way. What I have written here is factual truth. Maybe if this report had been written by a member of certain other CONTINUE-->


groups(s), it would have been biased to their opinion of the party and not based on fact. I hope you agree with me on this point and if you dont why not let me know? Overall the party was a great succsess with an overwelming turnout of almost 300 people (considering that if you added together every member of every group in England you would be extremly lucky to make 400!) Everybody enjoyed themselves, some people got drunk and some were tempted away from the party by young girls waving condoms at the windows! (this is completely true!) The main disruption of the party was the overloading of the power supply, which was completly out of out our controll, this problem then caused the cancelation of the Kick Off competition, and set a-light Opus of Equinoxe's selfish personality. Everybody I've spoken to since the party said they had a great day and sympathised about the power supply problem. If anyone else has their opinion of the party I would like to hear it. I hope every one who attended had a good time and didnt find the power problem too anoying. Judge Drokk/Anarchy


E.C.E.S Party-Report 14.6-16.6.-91 To be mentioned hereby at the very beginning of this text I would like to emphasize the fact this text is written as a Finnish point of view. So this might sound a bit brutal to people who had a great fun at this party . . . but now let's get to it ! For my part the voyage beginned at thursday 13.6 at Viking-line terminal here in Turku. After one helluva sleepless night at boat we arrived to Stockholm city. From there we continued with train. In train we regonized couple of freaks rushing their heavy bags (Some Rebels and others . . .) We arrived to partyplace one hour before opening. Approx. 100 guys were there before us. Here followed the first dissapointment ; No Finns at all in sight ! Depressed we entered the school at 14:00 and tried to spell our names to the staff . . . (ya can't believe how hard it can be . . . ) We got classroom and took our stuff there. After gathering up our Amiga we went looking around the school . . . It was time 4 second dissapointment ; it wasn't enough that almost all people were Swedes . . most of them were very lame . . . Here's some of those cool groups we can remember : Palace, Dual Crew, Voice, Silents, Defjam, Complex + of coz the staff who organized this pardey (Phenomena, Razor, Rebels and Zike & Conqueror) First day was very hard . . . We had no much to do and that's why we spent our time at city and in school cafeteria. (Where the only nice looking girls were found !) Saturday was like friday . . . no too much things to do. Swedes just looked as busy as they always look. (Suomeksi: pitivat Kimppakivaa !) Saturday evening was bit better coz we met some FINNISH Complex guys ! CONTINUE-->


(ya can't believe what a release : you can talk your OWN language !) We thought the demo-competition would be held at 24.00 or some hours after that, but no ! The demos were shown 10 hours after deadline ! That fact ment that we had no time to copy any of the demos released at this party ! (at all : we didn't lose much, cause demos were very low qualified !) We just had enough time to look demos at this consert-hall, where they were shown. VERY BAD thing was that during the demo, -music and graphics competition the staff spoke only swedish ! So we had about to guess which demo was winner . . . Finally we came to this result : No 1. Dual Crew intro (4th dimension) Rest were impossible to guess so you just have to get 'em somewhere else ! Graphics competition was VERY high-qualified ! The five Best of the pictures were shown at the hall. Winner was some Swede with his neat barbaric picture. Second was Red Baron with his Mountain-King ! Even the rest of the pictures were so cool that it was hard to believe your eyes ! Also the music-competition was cool . . . Anyway, the swedish language was beyond our reach and so you won't get any names of the winners hereby. In general this party was a good example of 'over swede' party. Swedes chewed Swedish to eachothers and couldn't speak English ! There were many people who hardly could say a word in English ! In future I will thought twice before entering a party in Sweden and if I will - I will do it with atleast 20 Finns ! So, all Swedes . . . Hope you had a good time - coz I didn't ! (VIBRILLION)


TURTLE-PARTY REPORT =================== 11.5 Helsinki, Finland, Turtle of Frantic held a party for finnish Amiga- freaks, and here is the report of that party. Well, the partyplace located in Helsinki, Munkkivuori. Place was hard to find, atleast for us because the map we used to find the place was too old (printed in year 1977). And building where party was held was a kind of youthcenter. There were one big hall and 3 smaller rooms for use...and because all rooms were full, we occupied the kitchen...heh heh!!! Amount of freaks was a surprising big, about 70 guys were presented.I expected only about 30 guys so it was a suprise atleast for me. Ofcourse half of them were just locals. Some groups who showed up were : Complex (we), Scoopex, Rebels Sf, Alpha Flight Sf, Image, Bloodsuckers, Equinox, Sonic, Owerflow, Mean Machine, Frantic (ofcourse), Vertigo, Accession and some others i can't remember... Turtle even organized a introcompetition. Ofcourse prices for winning intros couldn't be so high coz it was only a miniparty...but anyway, 7 intros were judged...Results of compo : 1) Rebels Sf , 2)Alpha Flight , 3)Image , 4)Bloodsuckers , 5)Alpha Flight , 6)Equinox , 7)Sonic...Strange that Bloodsuckers were at 4th place because their intro wasn't ready. Well, i got to say thanks to Turtle who made good work with the party. It was good organized though it was bit boring but it wasn't Turtle's fault... Mic & Reward & Co. got bored and tried to make some fun with shooting lamers with peas...But some of them didn't like the whole idea and they left the party place. Poor fellows...


Hello ! Here is Agnus of Flashing Bytes Germany and I got this crazy Magazine on the 'Maximum Pleasure' Party, which was held on May 18th 1991 ... ------------------------------------------------------------ Party Report : Maximum Pleasure Party (May 18th 1991) ------------------------------------------------------------ The Maximum Pleasure Party was organized by Tristar, Red Sector, Vogue and Supplex, and also a group from the C-64 (Crest) was under the organizers, but as I've not seen any C-64 I can't understand why Crest has done this ... We were three Flashing Bytes members there, two came with a car and the third one by train ! The invitation for the party was totally lame because we all thought the party whould be in the Luxembourg City but it was 50 kilometers away from the City ... the party began at 1 pm but we arrived at 4 pm coz it was a really lame invi and we haven't found the partyplace (by the way Storm of Energy was our driver, he he !) ... CONTINUE --->


When we arrived there were about 250 freaks and we saw some of our friends from Panic, Action, Coma, Treacl ... Later on, Mr. Base from Flashing Bytes turned the computer and he started coding while I talked to some friends ... The Music Competition was at 6 pm but there were only 5 guys who made the jury and so the musics were rated only by such a lame account ... and as there were also some TRSI members who were in the jury the music from TRSI won ... great !!! I don't know who finally were the other one's because it's not important, I think the sound TRSI made was not worth to win and it was not a real competition ... The sounds were not played fully but only 1/5 of the patterns were played and then the sound was stopped ... At 8 pm there was the demo competition but not much demos were shown ... - The Special Brothers Luxembourg - Brainstorm - Hawai Brothers - Iris - Frantic and a demo made with the Red Sector demomaker which was kicked out ! Also JPN (ex-DISC-editor) sent his game called asteroids in the competition but the jury dropped it also ... CONTINUE -->


The demos from Brainstorm, Hawai Brothers and Iris didn't work and so they couldn't be rated. The special feature of the party was a live strip ! That girl was really pretty, if you want some photos drop me a message ... the girl came twice, one time before and the second time after the demo competition ... Normally the party should have been on two days (May 18-19) but the organizers had to close the hall at 3 am on May 19th so we left the party at 2 am ... Finally the party wasn't bad at all ... there were not so much releases as on other parties and also the competitions were not well organized but we met some cool guys and friends and we spread our info-paper about 'Trader' ! Some features which were printed on the invitation were not shown ! There was no US Modem Import and no Live Cracks were shown ! I hope you got the most important facts from that party .... Agnus / Flashing Bytes WHQ


ABOUT DISKMAGS The main reason I'm writing this crap is Jason/Energy's letter to Bad Tongue issue 10. HE says he doesn't like Eurochart,bcoz' there are no trainercharts on their charts. Eurochart receive approx.500 votes/issue,(or more) and I understand they'd like to do something else than counting the votes every day.So there can't be every possible chart in it!! Bad Tongue hasn't got such many voters (yet!) Ofcourse everyone has got own opinions,but I think BAD Tongue is NOT best mag on the scene. (like Jason said) It is good,but not best! Bcoz' it hasn't got enough pages (possible bcoz' they are on IFF format (every page!) and bcoz' there ain't enuf writers. I think (that's my opinion!) there are many ELITE mags on the scene, like: ZINE (maybe best),CJ (not as good as about one year ago,but they have new code in it),Eurochart (Euronews could be bigger and include something else than news,too. Anyway,Ken-stories in scroll are very good),Maggy (hope there would still be some SUOMALAISIA JUTTUJA!),and others like Royal Informs,ICE,DISC,BAD Tongue,Hackmag and others (I can't remember everyone) to the end I wanna say ANYWAY,trainercharts are good idea! Signed Tony/AGONY (PS. If U wanna swap with me,check addy from ads.section!!)


ANOTHER SWAP-HINT ----------------- Written by Zakka of Prime Are you a swapper? If yes, then do you have foreigian contacts? Well then, have you never heard that every country has it's own little 'sign' ?? You must have....You know, Finland has -SF-, Sweden has -S- etc....... Ok, now to the point! Why am I telling you this? Because in many Post- Offices, they are very busy there, and when they stamp all those tousands of envelopes ,they have no time to look whole address, only that POST CODE what is on every envelope!!! Now there is quite big problem sometimes: If you send, let's say from Sweden to Finland, and you write only your contact's name, address, POST CODE and town, then that Finland.... Ok, when your Post Office (This case in Sweden) stamps your envelope with BIG hurry, they only look : 65201, ok, then they throw it to some big box what is going to somewhere in SWEDEN what has that same POST CODE what that Finnish dude has (yes,65201!) !!! You got it? Hope so, because if you still send you mail like this dude in Sweden, your mail can very often delay min. 1 day ! And that is much sometimes, or what??? Now message to every freeking swapper: Remember this thing !!! If you are so stupid, that you don't know your own country's sign, then go and ask from your post office !... I'm not saying, that nobody knew this before, but I know too much guyz who didn't !!! If you dare, than contact PRIME at: P.O.BOX, SF-65201 VAASA, FINLAND ! :ZAKKA / PRIME --------------------------------------------------------------------------


2400 bps, curse or blessing ? In the scene, trading with modem is perharps the most important way of spreading productions. Its quickness and reliability is far more better than in 'normal' mailswapping. This is a good thing. And now I mean HST- and other fast modems. But there are also lots of fellows who have 2400-modems. These guys also want to be in scene trading stuff, even with a slow modem. This is NOT a good thing. Since them are so muddy that it slows down others' traders' "job". I know one person (let's give him to be anonymous...) who calls from Finland even to Germany with 2400-modem! And he calls himself 'modemtrader'... He have to be *RICH* or *SICK*. However, slow modems are still not useless. Around here where I live are many "message"-bbs:s, where to I call daily. The message-business is very much different in those bases compared to "pirate"-boxes. It is quite nice to conversate about things with other persons, than only send out fuckings... Also 2400-modems are just fine with down/uploading some 'little'-stuff. I do understand very much people who have bought HST with quite a high price, and then when they start trading, there are some stupid l****s who are just in the way with them 2400:ers. But it is not correct to say that all modems below 9600-speed are for l****s and other stupid and failed guys. If everybody stays with his(her) own kinds of 'speeds' nobody needs to be in everyone's route. To the end I must inform you that I have 2400-modem, and I am not thought about getting HST. But them are good thingies and if you have one, do not throw it away...you know what I mean... - AX the Alien / Probe -


open letter to BASTARDS from ZELKICK We in ZELKICK (a new group in DK) is still wondering why the members of BAS- TARDS is acting so strange!!! we were at a locale meeting XEROZ here in DK!!! nearly all groups was unknown at this little meeting and everything was going fine, just untill some mem- bers of the group BASTARDS entered the meeting, They started immedaly to ter- rorize some locale freax and after a short while a guy from BASTARDS and some of the locale freax went up in a fight!!!the guy from BASTARDS begant to bleed but it seemed that he dident care at all about this, and within some minutes there was a big mess. Just until some really big guys could stand between. OK we dont know why this fight started but we think it is quite strange that we had a very good time untill BASTARDS showed up!!!So we in ZELKICK would like to say that you guys of BASTARDS seems to be a very upfucked group who only know how to make troubles!!!and earn money on selling new warez!!! we dont think that we need a group like yours in this scene where everything is ok and people talking with each others about computers and not making shit like you does!!!so you guys of BASTARDS please keep away from our locale meet- ings bcoz we are not interested in troubles!!! everytime you shows up. This open letter is not ment to be a beginning of a WAR with you guys!!!!!!!!! but please follow our options and stay away next time there will be a meeting. Otherwise we will call the police and ask them to take hand of you members of BASTARDS!!! signing off DROPS OF ZELKICK


1.FIRST OF ALL, PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO OUR READERS ? my name is darkangel of abyss. i started with a c-64 and now i have an amiga and next time i will buy a pc. on amiga i only make grafix and swapping ... 2.OK, AND HOW ABOUT YOUR MEMBERLIST? our memberlist: exxon - sysop tom - cosysop thunderhawk - modem trader murdock and darkangel - grafix rascal, darkangel and murdock - swapping venture, europe, hawkeye and expert - coding black bull, rascal - pc scene 3.WELL, ANY BIG FUTUREPRODUCTS COMING...DEMOS AND CRACKS ? next time there will be coming a new demo from abyss (with filled vectors, fractals,... i am not allowed to reveal more ) and a new demo from europe called technical disaster ii ... 4.WHERE DO YOU GET ALL ORIGINALS? this and the next question are top secret... 5.DO YOU HAVE PAY FOR THEM? top secret...


6. OK, NOW SOME PERSONAL QUESTIONS. DESCRIPE YOUR OUTLOOK ? i am 179 cm large and always try jeans. i have blond hair. 7. HOW OLD ARE YOU ? i am 18 years old... 8. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER HOBBIES THAN COMPUTING ? in winter i go skiing and skating ... in summer i go swimming... 9. PLEASE GIVE US YOUR FAVORITE : -GROUP : for demos: tristar & red sector inc. and for cracks: quartex -BOARD : airport -FOOD : all food with spicy meal or pizza -DRINK : wodka + red bull -MOVIE : indiana jones and the last crusade 10. SO HOW DID YOU LIKED LAST ISSUE OF THIS MAG? it was very good. the interviews are very nice to read but the advertisments were very difficult to survey... 11. IS THERE ANYTHING WE SHOULD CHANGE IN MAGGY? the orthography-mistakes and the view...


12. WHICH WAS BEST COPYPARTY YOU HAVE EVER VISITED ? DO YOU LIKE PARTIES ? the best copyparty will come in autuum...in innsbruck...i like parties very much... 13. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT FINNISH-SCENE? GIVE US A TOP5 OF FINNISH GROUPS? NOTE:i hope i give the right answer to this question.(finnish-scene???) first is quartex second is kefrens third is defjam forth is anarchy fifth is red sector 14. COMMENT ABOUT ME (HYDE/COMPLEX) AND COMPLEX ? your demos are fanatastic and very diversify. hyde is a dependable and good demo-swapper. but i dont know how about games and utils... 15. OK, ENOUGH STUPID QUESTIONS...OR DO YOU WANNA MORE ? WELL, NOW I GIVE YOU POSSIBILITY TO WRITE SOME WORDS TO YOUR FANS (GREETINGS ETC.)... i send greetings to the rest of the group and to all members of complex... spezial greetings go to mr.king of victory, hyde of complex, andreas kuhnke, poldi, kammerlander ...


1.FIRST OF ALL, PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO OUR READERS ? -I'm Stranger of Agile! I usedf to be in Horizon, but since Horizon is dead, i'm now in AGILE! 2.DO YOU KNOW A MEMBERLIST OF AGILE, PLEASE GIVE IT TO US? -Memberlist of Agile : Sweden : Conqueror, Elric, Zike, Syncro, Stranger, The Big Bad Bud. Uk : The Undertaker, Big D, Sabbath. Usa : Mighty Quinn, Psycho, Capricorn. France : X-rated. Germany: Captain Midnight, Malzam & Andy. 3.WHERE DO YOU GET ALL ORIGINALS? -From our Qualified suppliers...hehe! 4. OK, NOW SOME PERSONAL QUESTIONS. DESCRIPE YOUR OUTLOOK ? -Handsome, cool...all a girl could want a guy to look like! 5. HOW OLD ARE YOU ? -17 years old. 6. YOU ARE ALSO MODEMTRADING. HOW BIG IS YOUR PHONEBILL ? -Only lamers pay for their calls!! 7. DO YOU USE CALLING CARDS ? -Dont need to use cards.


8. AND HOW MONEY YOU SPEND TO STAMPS EACH MONTH ? -100 $ / month! 9. OR ARE YOU USING FAKED STAMPS ? -NO!!! 10. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER HOBBIES THAN COMPUTING ? -Ofcourse...soccer, girls & parties. 11. PLEASE GIVE US YOUR FAVORITE : -GROUP : Classic or Fairlight -BOARD : Central Europe -FOOD : Chinese -DRINK : Tequila -MOVIE : Robin Hood 12. IS THERE ANYTHING WE SHOULD CHANGE IN MAGGY? -A cool cracker chart where Endless Piracy isn't toping the chart just b'coz they crack all the lame german pd-games which is released! I want a real chart where you only get points for 100 % cracks!!! 13. OK, ENOUGH STUPID QUESTIONS...OR DO YOU WANNA MORE ? WELL, NOW I GIVE YOU POSSIBILITY TO WRITE SOME WORDS TO YOUR FANS (GREETINGS ETC.)... -I wanna say hi to my friend in Complex! Yo Hyde...always nice to chat with you pal! And to all swedes out there : SUG MIN KUK! AGILE RULES!!!


HERE IS SOME QUESTIONS TO STOOKIE / DUAL CREW !!! 1. PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO OUR READERS ? IM LIVING IN A MEDIUM BIG TOWN IN THE MIDDLE OF SWEDEN CALLED ESKILSTUNA. WORKING AT A ADVERISMENT COMPANY, GOT MY OWN PRIVATE SECRETARY (THATS GREAT!) A PROUD OWNER OF AN BLUE VOLVO 240 (IT'S EASY TO IMPRESS ON THE GIRLS IF YOU HAVE A CAR LIKE THAT!) 2. YEAH, HAVE YOU BEEN IN ANY OTHER GROUPS THAN DUAL CREW? LET'S JUST SPEAK ABOUT MY AMIGA CAREER (IVE BEEN ON THE 64 IN SEVERAL SMALL GROUPS MANY MANY YEARS AGO) MY FIRST GROUP ON AMIGA WAS THE KAMAKAZE TEAM (VERY LAME GROUP!) THEN I JOINED THUNDERS (ALMOST AS LAME AS THE KAMAKAZE TEAM) BUT I GOT A LOT OF CONTACTS SO AFTER A WHILE DID I JOIN DUAL CREW TOGETHER WITH MR PEQ & MUTANT. WE HAVE BEEN DUAL CREW MEMBERS FOR ABOUT 3 YEARS NOW. 3. GIVE US YOUR FULL MEMBERLIST? ATLEAST I HAVE BEEN BIT CONFUSED WITH YOUR MEMBERS...RUMOURS, YOU KNOW. YEP, THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF RUMOURS AROUND IN SEVERAL DISK MAGAZINES A LOT OF IT AINT TRUE, SOME PEOPLE WAS KICKED OUT OF DUAL CREW AND GOT PISSED AND SPREAD SOME FALSE RUMOURS. FOR EXAMPLE: ZEDY EX. SAVAGE WAS KICKED OUT AND THEN CLAIMED THAT HE LEFT US TO JOIN QUARTEX. WHAT A LAMER! YOU WAS KICKED OUT! AND HE NEVER JOINED QUARTEX EITHER ZOOLOK CLAIMED THAT HE WAS A MEMBER TO, BUT HE WAS NEVER A MEMBER! HAWKEYE, NOBLESTAR, OTHON ALSO CLAIMED TO BEEN MEMBERS.....YET ONLY PURE BULLSHIT. SWAPPERJACK OF EUROPHIA SAID THAT HE JOINED US TO. CONTINUE -->


FUCK NO! WE HAVE NO GERMAN MEMBERS EITHER!!!! I THINK THATS ALL.... OUR FULL MEMBERLIST IS: IN SWEDEN: STOOKIE - MAIL AND MODEM SPREADER SNUSKBUSKE - SYSOP AND MODEMSPREADER (NO:1 TOP UPLOADER IN SWEDEN) ZAZ - CODER, TRAINERMAKER JOKER - CODER, TRAINERMAKER TRIGON - CODER, TRAINERMAKER HATER - CODER, GFX, TRAINERMAKER BLITZWING - CODER, TRAINERMAKER POW - MUSICAN, TRAINERMAKER, MODEMTRADER THE GNN - BLEED MAKER, MAIL AND MODEM SPREADER (GUN FREAK) MUTANT - GRAPHICS DRAGON - SYSOP JBM - MAIL AND MODEMTRADER (NO:2 TOP UPLOADER IN SWEDEN) MR PEQ - CODER, TRAINERMAKER IN FINLAND: POLARBEAR - MODEMTRADER (NO:1 TOP UPLOADER IN FINLAND) AXIS - CODER ZODIAK - CODER, TRAINERMAKER WDO - CODER RASTER - MAILSPREADER TYRELL - MUSICAN VULCAN - MAILSPREADER HAKA - MODEMTRADER CONTINUE ->


ENGLAND: MORPH - MUSICAN (EX. CRYSTAL) 4. WHAT DO YOU THINK, IS DUAL CREW FAMOUS? AND WHY, IF IT IS? ASK ME BOUT THAT? I A JUST A LITTLE PARTIAL. SURE I THINK THAT WE ARE FAMOUS ETC. DUAL CREW HAVE BEEN ON THE COMPUTER SCEENE FOR 5 YEARS. A FEW WEEKS LONGER THAN THE OLD CLASSIC C-64 GROUP TRIAD ! WE HAVE (WHAT MOST OF THE OTHER GROUPS DONT HAVE) ORGANISATION. WE'LL STAY FOR EVER (UNLIKE 97,63% OF ALL OTHER GROUPS) 5. BEST PRODUCT FROM DUAL CREW? ANY COOL DEMOS COMING? BEST PRODUCTS? A HARD ONE, BUT THE 100+ GIGATRAINER ON SUPERCARS 2 WAS A GREAT ONE, BLEED I & II, SMOOTH CRIMINAL, OUR MEGADEMO. WE HAVE SEVERAL DEMOS UNDER DEVELOPMENT. AS MOST OF YOU SEEN, WE PRODUCE MANY TRAINERS. 6. OK, NOW SOME PERSONAL QUESTIONS. DESCRIPE YOUR OUTLOOK ? WELL....IM 1.90 TALL. WEIGHT 85 KG. I HAVE VERY SHORT BLOND HAIR EIN PURE ARIER. 7. HOW OLD ARE YOU ? I AM 23 YEARS OLD. 8. YOU PROBABLY HAVE A MODEM, AM I RIGHT ? SURE. I WAS ONE IF THE FIRST ONES IN SWEDEN WHO GOT A 14400 MODEM CONTINUE ->


(2 YEARS AGO) ON THAT TIME WERE WE ONLY 5-7 GUYS IN SWEDEN WHO HAD A HIGH SPEED MODEM. NOWDAYS THERE ARE MORE THEN 100 AND MANY (TOO MANY!) OF EM ARE REALLY LAME. IN THE GOOD OLD TIMES YOU HAD TO CALL USA TO GET THE LATEST WAREZ. NOWDAYS YOU CAN CALL A LOCAL BBS AND GET SOME GAMES PRETTY FAST (THE U.S. IS MUCH FASTER!) 9. DO YOU USE CALLING CARDS ? NO. THERE ARE BETTER AND SAFER WAYS TO CALL FOR FREE. 10. AND HOW MUCH MONEY YOU SPEND TO STAMPS EACH MONTH ? 200-500 SWEDISH CROWNS. IT DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH WE RELEASE. 11. OR ARE YOU USING FAKED STAMPS ? NEVER. I HAVE A QUITE WELL PAYD JOBB AND ARE ABLE TO PAY MY OWN STAMPS. 12. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER HOBBIES THAN COMPUTING ? NOT REALLY. I HAVE OTHER INTERESTS BUT NO OTHER HOBBY. 13. PLEASE GIVE US YOUR FAVORITE : -GROUP QUADLITE (MARK II SURE IS THE VERY BEST MUSICAN ON AMIGA!) -BOARD THERE ARE SOME GOOD ONES AND MANY LAME ONES. -FOOD BIG MAC -DRINK COCA COLA -MOVIE RAMBO III CONTINUE ->


14. SO HOW DID YOU LIKED OUR REBORN DISKMAG 'MAGGY'? I LIKE IT...I REALLY DO. BUT ZINE, 4 TH DIMENSION AND CJ ARE MUCH BETTER. 15. IS THERE TOO MUCH DISKMAGS ALREADY ? WHICH ONE IS BEST ? SURE...THERE ARE A HELL LOT OF MAGZ OUT, BUT I LIKE TO GET A A NEW ISSUE OF ANY MAGAZINE TO READ. 16. WHICH WAS BEST COPYPARTY YOU HAVE EVER VISITED ? DO YOU LIKE PARTIES ? SILENTS'N'RED SECTOR'S COPY PARTY IN DENMARK LAST SUMMER WAS VERY WELL ORGANIZED (I LIKED THAT) OTHERWISE COPY PARTYS CAN BE TERRIBLE ORGANIZED (LIKE THE POWERLORDS & AURORA PARTY IN MOTALA / SWEDEN LAST YEAR). BUT I PREFER INTERNAL DUAL CREW PARTIES INSTEAD, WE HAVE MUCH MORE FUN THEN. 17. WOULD YOU COME FINLAND FOR COPYPARTIES? PROBABLY NOT. 18. COMMENT ABOUT ME (HYDE/COMPLEX) AND COMPLEX ? BETTER AVOID TO ANSWER THAT, SINCE IVE MEET YOU AT THE RAZOR PARTY. (JOKE) 19. OK, ENOUGH STUPID QUESTIONS...OR DO YOU WANNA MORE ? WELL, NOW I GIVE YOU POSSIBILITY TO WRITE SOME WORDS TO YOUR FANS (GREETINGS ETC.)... CONTINUE ->


DUAL CREW PRINTWARE OFFERS YOU ALL TO BUY SHIRTS WITH THE GROUP NAME PRINTED ON IT. T-SHIRTS COLLEGE ------------------------- ----------- 50 - 100 st 70 kr / st 125 kr / st 20 - 49 st 80 kr / st 135 kr / st 16 - 19 st 100 kr / st 155 kr / st 11 - 15 st 110 kr / st 165 kr / st 5 - 10 st 130 kr / st 185 kr / st YOU CAN USE OWN PICTURES IF YOU WANT. OTHERWISE CAN WE FIX AN COOL FONT. THE PRICES ARE IN SWEDISH CROWNS. 1 CROWN=6 US DOLLARS. THATS THE CHEAPEST AND BEST ONES AVALIABLE. WRITE TO : DUAL CREW TO ORDER BOX 10056 630 10 ESKILSTUNA SWEDEN WE COULD USE SOME FAST ORIGINALS SINCE WE HAVE 4 HIGHLY QUALIFIED CRACKERS! AND A BIG HELLO TO THE SPECIALS OF QUARTEX. SEE YOU LATER THIS SUMMER IN YOUR PLACE IN FRANCE.


FINTELCOM PHONE CARD Fintelcom is a new calling card system in Finland. It likes same as AT+T, MCI etc. in USA. Fintelcom is only for guys whos call from Finland or to Finland. Here is some numbers for it... FINLAND DIRECT TO FINLAND FROM COUNTRY DIRECT FROM FINLAND TO Nedherlands 06 0220358 Nedherlands 9800 1 0310 Australia 0014881 358 Australia 9800 1 0610 Belgia 110358 Chile 9800 1 0560 Chile 0003358 Spain 9800 1 0340 Spain 900990358 Filippines 9800 1 0630 Filippines 10535 Honggong 9800 1 0852 Honggong 008 1358 Ireland 9800 1 0353 Ireland 1 800 550358 England 9800 1 0440 England 0800 890358 Italia 9800 1 0390 Israel 177 3582727 Japan 9800 1 0810 Japan 0039 358 Kanada 9800 1 0011 Kanada 1 800 363 4035 Portugal 9800 1 0351 Luxembourg 0800 0358 France 9800 1 0330 Portugal 05050358 Sweden 9800 1 0460 France 19 00358 Singapore 9800 1 0650 Sweden 020 799358 USA (AT+T) 9800 1 0010 Singapore 800 3580 USA (MCI) 9800 1 0280 Denmark 800 10058 USA (US Sprint) 9800 1 0284 Hungary 00 363581 New Zealand 9800 1 0640 USA (AT+T) 1 800 232 0358 USA (MCI) 1 800 283 4652 USA (US Sprint) 1 800 473 9800 New Zealand 000935 If you call from Finland you can speak finish or the language of land you are calling to. When you're calling from outside Finland use language of land you're calling from or finish. Written by AL of Society


Movie Review: the Doors Directed by Oliver Stone This film has been advertised very much and I looked forward to see it. Finally it arrived also my town's cinema and so I went there. Of course. I take one of my friends with me, because I think it is not so nice watch films alone. Well, this is not very important. The film was just as great as I waited. Stone's style of directing is quite original. The film tells about Doors and Jim Morrison. It is not any fame-story in which you can see how they came from unknownesity to publicity with great efforts. No. In the film you can see the visions what He/They had when they were stoned. You can see the worshippers of Jim Morrison doing anything he wanted them to do. You can see the outer side of Jim Morrison. But not the inside. In the film there's no Morrison's thoughts or something like that. There's just his visions. There's also people who want to get money with Doors. They see that Doors will become something big. BIG. And it became. The hippie-culture is well representated. Drugs & sex & rock'n'roll. Parties In addition to Morrison's visions and problems there is also humour. I really laughed to some scenes. I am not going to tell any 'jokes' here, because them have to be seen. One actor in the film is one my favourit, Kyle McLachlan (or something like that...), the agent Cooper from Twin Peaks himself! The film is great and it is truly worth of seeing. And the music is great too. "Light my fire", "Break on through", "Riders of the storm" and all other masterpieces. So if you like Doors or Oliver Stone's films or both (as I do...), you must see this film. - AX the Alien / Probe -


FINNISH GROUPS!!! (Written by Commie of The Special Brothers!) As you can see it from the name, you can find some information about finnish groups from this article... Scoopex - They have 3 members here in Finland: Reward (Gfx) Zebra (Sysop & modemtrader) Slayer (Code)... They have released some intros and cool demos! (Mental Hangover...) I think that everybody knows Scoopex quite well so let's go to the next group! Vertigo - This group was formed from best members of Image some time ago and they have released some cool demos (Fill 'em All & Vectors for All)!!! I've heard that Crystal asked Vertigo to join 'em, but the guys in Vertigo didn't want to join! They also do some modemtrading and have boards (Pipers Pit in USA and Concealed Dimension in Finland).. Rebels - Another cool demogroup in Finland... They have really cool musician called Heatbeat (At least I like his music!) and some cool coders... Dual Crew - They do some trainers, swapping and modemtrading... They got some new members lately... Image - They do some cracks, trainers, modemtrading and swapping! I've heard that they are going to release demo soon... They also have 3 boards here in Finland! Equinox - The finnish division of Equinox was found by some members of Gemini! They have relesed some intros! Their finnish hq is Procyon! Complex - They are the makers of this nice Maggy... They have released some intros and demos! They also do some modemtrading and have board in the USA! CONTINUE->


The Special Brothers - The finnish division of TSB was found about 5 months ago when Cruzifix left Energy and joined TSB, few months later cool swapper called Commie joined too and after him Stargazer joined and... Anarchy - Another cool demogroup... Famous members: Golem, Bruno, Wraith, Psycho and Rubber Boy! Vectra - They have released 1 demo and 2 quite nice intros... Vectra was found some time go when Smirre left Defjam and wanted to build his own group! Some guys from Gate, Nikki Corruptions and Chrome joined Vectra! Byte Rapers - I think they are the oldest group in Finland! They have released some demos and intros!! Cave - I think they have quite many members. They do some modemtrading (?) demos and intros... But I think they should improve their quality! Frantic - They released nice demo Cavader some time ago. I've heard that they are going to release really big (3 disx) demo soon... They also have some problems, becoz there are 2 other groups named Frantic!!! Nikki Corruptions - They have lost some of their members but they are still fighting... Sir Arthur is coding game for Awesoft, so I think that's why they haven't released any demos for a long time!! Famous members: Sir Arthur, Farqu and Rocket... They made the nice game called Lada Race! Wizzcat - They do some demos, intros and modemtrading. The Shining - They were found by the best members of Elite Inc. They have released some trainers and a cool demo! CONTINUE-->


Crusaders - They have atleast one musician (Fleshbrain) in Finland. Skid Row - I'm not sure but I think they have one coder called Stone in Finland! Bloodsuckers - The party monsters! They have released some musicdisks, demos, intros... Famous members: Scy, Hoffi, Communist Cowboy, Merit... I think that Merit will arrange party this summer... Alpha Flight - They are making the famous Diskmag C.J. and they released demo lately! (It didn't work on my Amiga!!!) They also kicked out many members some time ago... Society - They arrange cool (?) party 7th-9th of June! Sorry, I don't know much about this group! Gemini - Some of their members left and formed finnish division of Equinox! But I think they are still alive! Quartex - They have atleast one modemtrader & swapper (Zedy) in Finland! (Bullshit, ED) Thanx for reading this article and don't blame me if I forgot some cool groups...


___ __ __ _____ _ _ _ _ / / / _ \ / // //_ _//\ //\ //\ //\ /\_ //\ / /_ / _ // _ / / / / / - The Bussines CITY _\\ // //\ //////\ \__//_//_//_//_/ /_/ /_/ \\/ \\ \\ //\/ \\ -=> RePoRt <=- Lahti is a quite big city in Funland!! It's located 100 km apart from Helsinki and 200 km from Tampere. There are over 95000 inhabitants. Lahti is famous its winter games in "Salpausselka". There are also lots of conferences and fairs. Here in Lahti lives quite many COOL computerfreaks and I will intoduce you some of them! List contains also some other towns and villages like: Hollola, Orimattila, Vaaksy and Nastola!! Euphoria: Bootlegger is only one from Euphoria who lives in Lahti. He is a mail-swapper and he makes little bit gfx too.. Admirals SF: Some kind of mail-swapper called F.J.R lives here. He swaps quite lamely with LISTS!! He has also made a demo with RSI- demomaker. Complex: Complex the most ruling group here in Lahti... Here lives 5 members of Complex... Der Hm (Sysop, trader, swapper), Hyde (swapper, main-editor of Maggy), Mic Dair (Leader, swapper, main-editor of Maggy), Proton (Coder), Jugi (Musax, gfx). So here you can feel the power of Complex!! Wizzcat: I (Catman) live in Lahti too... (cool?) I am a swapper and modem trader.... There is also other members of WizzCat.... Mr.0track (gfx), Zeta (Coder) and our new member RAZE!! who is SySoP in our SfHq Light Line (Call:+358-18-841074)


TSB: One member lives in Orimattila (20 km from Lahti) he is a musican, but not very famous yet... Shock: Group in Orimattila... some members (I dunno how many?) one of them are listed in here..... Rebeat (Musican)... I don't remember rest of them names... there is also one coder and gfx-man. Strangers: Odyx of Strangers lives in Hollola-City!! (swapper I think) Probe: Quite new group.. one member is The Fucking COOL Ax the Alien! with his 6 contacts.. he also makes modem trading with 2400bps Ironfist: I know only these 2 guys I don't know if they have more members in Lahti, but two 2400bps modem traders lives in Lahti Beastie Boys: Miy-91 lives in Lahti too... he is Co-sysop in Light Line bbs! Perfect Illus.: Juzzi... sysop of Shock Box ... 2400bps and 20 megs (COOL!) Image: YES.... one member from Image lives in Vaaksy (30km from Lahti) His name is Bitranger.... he is a swapper.... So quite many Freaks... There can be more freaks, but sorry that I don't know them all, I don't think that this was an good idea., but its done anyway!!! Signed: CaTmAn/WiZzCaT


Denmark and the danish scene """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Denmark. The land of the real vikings. Denmark is a small country in the nothern parts of europe. Denmark is mostly known for the danish bacon, the lovely blond girls, and the bad weather. Here in Denmark we say that we have two winters. The white one, and the green one. The population in Denmark is 4.9 million people. Denmark also have the biggest island in the world, Greenland. And then Denmark have one of the best computer scenes. Yeah, let's talk something about the danish scene.... The danish scene is not a cracker scene, it's a demo scene. There is very few cracker groups in Denmark. The only one I can think of right now is Skid Row and Palace. Some of the legends from the past came from Denmark. Just think of Bamiga Sector One, Vision and the real Warfalcons. Also today loadsa cool groups is from Denmark or at least haves a danish division, like : Rebels, Flash Production, Dexion, Crionics, Silents, Anarchy, Skid Row, Awesome, Palace, and Budbrain. Now let's take a closer look at some of the danish groups. REBELS : They are one of the oldest active groups in Denmark. They are known for good demo, and sometimes with a weird style. I think it was the weird demos from Static and Vandal who made Rebels wellknown. In the past few month Rebels have got many new members. Things is going well for Rebels. Good productions from Rebels : The Coma demo, many good demos, and nice pack disks. DEXION : Also a very old group here in Denmark. But things aren't going too good for Dexion. They have promised to release some big one-disk demos, but when this is written, we have't seen anything from them in a long time. Good productions from Dexion : a good megademo, and many good one part demos. CONTINUE-->


CRIONICS : Well, I think everybody have heard about Crionics. In fact I don't know much about them. They have produced many good demos. They are known for making big demos, with nice coding and new ideas. Good productions from Crionics : Many good megademos. FLASH PRODUCTION : Also a old group from Denmark. The group was founded for over 5 years ago. They are known for producing big demos, as megademos. Things have been going well for Flash Production lately. Many new members in Denmark (guys from the dead Kefrens). New divisions in Germany and the UK. They properly have the best gfx artist around at the moment. Slash is the man. Good productions from Flash Production : Many megademos, and the famous Digital Concert music disks. Also some wellknown pack disks. SILENTS : There have been quite silent around Silents lately. Many coders are working on games. And their good coder Mr.Perfect have left them. He will go to the states. When this is written their latest release was a great one disk demos called Global Trash. Good productions from Silents : Global Trash, other good demos, and great music disks. ANARCHY : The danish division of the english group Anarchy is pretty new. We haven't seen anything from them yet, but romours tells that they are working on some great demos. The division consists of members from ex-Kefrens/Rebels and from Prologic, Flash Prod. and Cheyens (I think). SKID ROW : Well, a new group in Denmark. This danish division is mostly modem trading. I don't know if they are cracking. But they haven't produced any demos. AWESOME : This new danish division of the german group Awesome is only trading on modem and by mail. I don't know if they have any coders, or anything else. TRIANGLE 3532 : This group is also a pretty old group. It was formed some years ago by some members from Election and I think some others. They have produced a few demos. But they produce something it's always pretty nice. Productions from Triangle 3532 : 3-4 good demos. CONTINUE-->


REDNEX : A totally new group. I don't know much about them. They have released one demo and a few intros. PALACE : I don't know if this group is danish or if this is a danish division of that group. They have made many quite good trainers, and I think they are also cracking. BUDBRAIN : Well, I don't think I have to introduce this group. I guess everybody knows them. They have produced two megademos and some virus killers. Their demos is in a totally new style. There's no coding in their demos, but they are really entertaining to watch. It's hard to explain their demos, but I think I need to do it. You all know their demos. Good productions from Budbrain : 2 megademos. PROLOGIC : Well, this group haven't done much. They have made a few intos and demos. I don't think that it's going very good for Prologic. Some members have left them. Some have joined Budbrain and Awesome. STATIC BYTES : They have released a few demos, and some pretty good good music disks. It's very seldom you see something from them. But I think they are in need of coders. Good productions from Static Bytes : A few good demos, and some nice musicdisks. CASCADE : This danish division have only released a megademo and that was certainly nothing worth to talk about. Let's hope that they will make better demos in the future. Well, I think I have mentioned all the most important groups in Denmark. Well I know that you are waiting for the Top 5 of danish groups, but I will not make one, but I will mention the 5 groups who maybe could be in such a Top 5. In NO order : Rebels - Flash Production - Budbrain - Crionics - Silents. I woun't make that Top 5 because then someone would be angry. But as you can see, the danish scene is a demos scene, with many demos groups and almost no illegal groups. And there is a good friendship in the danish scene, because almost everybody knows eachother. And there is no competition, because we are friends. All in all, I think that the danish scene is one of the best in the world. The Pride of Flash Production for Maggy '91


Finnish scene-history '86-91 By Grendel of Byterapers Inc. Today Finland is quite well known for its groups, or groups with divisions in Finland, like Scoopex, Frantic, Image & many other; bigger and smaller. But what about the yesterday's groups? What about those groups who have BUILT the current scene? Many current freaks have no idea about the old Finnish groups or their doings.This is a story about them and starting from the beginning, from the 64-times. The Finnish scene started to shape during the year 1987. At that year the existing, small at that time, groups started to find about each other. Of course there had been groups before, names like Pure-Byte and 777-Team should drop a tear from every old freak who's been around. They were the FIRST Finnish groups to ever get fame and rise to world-fame.Pure-Byte's star was Yip, otherwise known as Jori Olkkonen, who coded Scrollmachine, legendary demo which achieved enormous success. Later came The Dungeon,which amazed even more with its brilliant code. 777-Team rose as well high, even though don't know how as I didn't see much their doings. Anyway they were first Finnish Elite Amiga-group. Back 87. There was a lot of single guys, and small groups who were now, without knowing, forming "scene". A lil group of friends who formed inside ring "elites" of Finnish groups. Many had been around already from '86, although were just beginning. The star-groups of '87 were: 64: Byterapers, Stack, Z-Circle, Digitize Design Group, Finnish Gold, Amiga: X-Men, Finnish Gold, 777-Team.X-Men were to became the 2nd Amiga-group CONTINUE-->


rising into world's eyes, and the tool into fame was "Digisources 1&2".By that time's standard's they were extremerely useful: disks with useful samples for your songs! Stack was that time's crazy party-parta-group. Fast 64-cracking and even (at least) ONE demo from Zados. Zados was,is,the crazy here with myself in those days parties,drinking together under table, crazy talk&partyhabits and outfits... Byterapers had been growing fast, at worst times there was 50 members, but later it was dropped to sane numbers.The star of (B) was Kasper The Lord of the Keyboard, code-wizard. Magic but dead lazy coder, who cracked about 300 games during his lazy career. Some cracks were spread very well, as well as some demos, so (B) started to gain same fame. Z-Circle were small bunch of 4 or 5 guys doing a demo when cared. Without exception, they all were very good coders and put out very good demos. Especially TMS and Wallie deserve a special mention for building the scene.Later they disappeared of lazyness, but were for some time high on democharts.Finnish Gold is the best demogroup ever on 64 in Finland. The Fantasy Cracking Service (FCS)was long a loner doing demos by himself, and coding for Omega Team (later known as Finnish Gold). Then he joined FIG, and started one of the brighest stars ever. In the very end FIG was a member of legendaryTAU, The Austrian Union and made for them one of the best demos on 64 since that date. Later they left TAU, as well as TJU and created FIG's fame on their own. I could yet mention "V-Crackings Inc.", which stood for another Finnish legend named MOKU,later being at FIG and going to found Accession at 88. Many smaller groups were also formed at that time, but probably the only one alive is Wizzcat, born at end on 87. The few groups live from those times are Byterapers, being the oldest active group in Finland now (1986-91); DDG, who exist but are very dead; FIG, the same as DDG. That time existed also a small, funny group Wabo-Soft. It consisted of one, small unknown guy with big mouth named Reward + one other guy. Later Reward found Immortal Icarus Imperium, moved to Powerslaves and finally stormed Scoopex. Year changes. At newyear 87/88 is the first Finnish party, kept by the TJU, The Jezebels Union. At the party XYZ-Soft coded the first Finnish Amiga-demo ever. TJU was something we could only dream today: CONTINUE-->


all Finnish groups in one Union. Later when TJU splitted,the party started being called Finnish Gold party. There was the WHOLE current scene, all 40 guys!The Jezebels was a big thing to be,but unfortunately it was killed: Finnish Gold was the 1st group to leave it, saying they didn't need it. No-one needed it, but it was a good thing to be. X-Men followed, and so the elite- groups slowly left TJU. At these times started a competition between Byterapers and Finnish Gold about the leading place in Finland. 87 had been same compo between (B) and Stack,but Stack lost ground with moving to Amiga and lazyness. Now was starting a much longer and bitter competition. Afterwards thinking, neither group could win, as both had concentrated on different areas: Finnish Gold were demomakers,while (B) were crackers and spreaders. Anyway, for some time a hidden WAR was going between groups, while other groups were keeping out of way of struggling 64-giants.Also a much smaller was between (B) and ZODUX took place. Zodux was a small group which suddenly declared to be the NO:1! In very short but intense war Zodux disbanded themselves, and came out as exactly same group but with name: BEYOND FORCE! Zodux were ultra-lamers, and first Beyond was too, no wonder as they were just the same groups. Later Beyond Force rose high on coding, as they got Solomon,a coder almost as good as FCS. Anyway the struggle between (B) and FIG continued unchanged until 1989. Both groups claimed to be no:1. Both got better all the time,FIG made better demos while (B) cracked faster and more than any other Finnish group. Both were tops on own area. Always will be remembered some demos like Ice-Cold, 7 on The Top and all those rest brilliant ones with FCS' code and Rock's musics. Then FCS went to army, and so Finnish Gold faded from the scene. They still exist today, but do nothing. At 88 the scene really went on.Groups came. Groups went. Parties. DDG's Digiparty'88. Byterapers Party. Moku formed Accession from FIG's Amiga-side and The Destroyer Team. Someone called Zebra rose high. Stack gained strange fame as partyanimals (ketchup rules). Hack-Man came into light in FUS and later found Deathstar. Yes it was cool! The Rulers Of Finland-claimed. Erm. Hoffi had founded HTG (Hacker Trick Group) before, but left it and joined CONTINUE-->


Deathstar. He was later kicked out with The Wicked and went on founding BLOODSUCKERS!Later he joined (B) at Rockstar's birthday- party, and went after some time back to BS. West Russian Bad Boys ruled! Group which's leader Communist Cowboy boasted they collect all Finnish lamers. Vodka, Samovar, Lenin, da! Later this phenomena died, as CC also went to BS. WRBB and Stack/ X-Men were on same line - Eastern Power, our father Lenin rules, da! Sometime later Stack and X-Men went into cooperation, and after long time a shock came: Stack melts into X-Men and ceases to exist. Byterapers & Team-X cooperated, and grew to top 3 Finnish Amiga-groups A lot of small groups existed. People like A.C Software, F.S.D., HJJR, Swap and Beagle Boys, who presented the typical people around. Or MJM-Service, who later went on founding Browbeat, another famous 64-group. FIG made amazing 64-demos.(B) cracked more and more, and gained status as cracking crew. Team-X was high on Amiga and went into cooperation with (B). Later the coop splitted, but for some time the (B)+Team-X-coop had been very powerful. Mirage Intl. rose into sights, and was everyone's fun. Everyone's favourite lamers, making war with others. They also released diskmag C.O.W., which still is unique. Pure parody, at least 4 issues were made. They achieved to reach "Simo-price of the month" at Skandinavian News 8 for being the lamest group of the month. Near Tampere Neutral Zone Crackers affected with unbelievable digi-disks etc. Phalanx and. Came 1989. Now it was real. Finland had all possibilities, but one big problem was still: mail's slowness. Modems did't yet be reality for Finland's swappers, and it was impossible to be fast swapper with foreign contacts. Some groups anyway did it, and many other groups made finally quality demos - FIG's was not alone. This year the Finnish breakthrough happened. 64-groups like Finnish Gold and Beyond Force were releasing brilliant demos. Byterapers achieved position 9 on world's 64-crackercharts and reached Top 5 on Finnish Amiga-charts. Deathstar relesed the first Finnish megademo, which only few months ago reached Crusaders Eurochart top 20. Freedom Force followed soon with their megademo, but it didn't reach same CONTINUE-->


quality. FF gained status with Lucifer's demos, and Phalanx released their legendary vector-demo(coded by Tai-Pan), which still is far better than most current filled-vector demos. It had IDEA and HUMOUR. One could laugh watching it, which can't be said with these fast'n beautiful filled demos today. Overload appereated, and cooperated with Phalanx, and arranged the fiasco Lahti-party. Later joined each other, and became Complex. Strange group called X-Beat was born, as Irwin being founder. That was real strange group, first only partyboozers but later even some real jobbing. That's time's top-boozers were Zados/Stack, Irwin/ X-Beat and Grendel/(B). Some small groups of time were for example First Wave and Microwave. Accession released magazine Skandinavian News, which challenged Cracker Journal very hard from the best mag's position. They were having very good time overall. More and more happened. Axion 1999 first boasted, and then got fucked by all Finnish groups. Sampox the lame noticed nothing and continued laming (he even BOUGHT stuff from the writer). Destiny were first down, but later rose real high as swappers and were sucked into Deathstar. Clones saw the light, being quite ok. Even Walkman of IT was some time in Byterapers. At beginning of 89 Byterapers announced the first Amiga-products, and started the Muzzax series. The Action Force left (B) and founded Index. Index was very short lived, soon joined Phaland. The 64-guys formed Contex, which was to became a bright star on the 64-sky. They soon joined the ranks of Finnish elite-coders, and filled the empty slot left by Finnish Gold, as both Rock (Skandinavian's 2nd best musician) and FCS (best 64 coder in Finland) were in army. Byterapers qui the whole 64-section at once, and Extasy was found, main members being ex-rapers Rockstar and Servant. They continued the cracking (B) had started, and rose real high. Another great war of 1989 happened between Bloodsuckers vs Finnish groups. BS had been teasing Finnish groups already, but then came the final bit. I and Scy&The Wicked Bloodsuckers were at Silents-party at Sweden and released a small intro there. At intro we together fucked all Finnish groups and wrote awful shit about everyone. CONTINUE-->


"We made this intro just to send lots of fucks". Suddenly, no-one realized it was joke, took everything literally and started a war against BS. What's most interesting, no-one battled against Byterapers - even when the intro was BS & (B) cooperation products and I had been writing the texts as well. BS almost disappeared by the time, but did not die and are now high again. But it's very funny to see what ONE SMALL INTRO, with logo,music and scroll can do. Funny was also how almost ALL Finnish groups united against BS but achieved nothingelse but some months silence. 1990. Almost what we see today. Contex died, and Finnish guys formed Artline Designs, legal group. Beyond Force rose again high, as Solomon had been in army and during it BF were quite down. Since returning, they have been doing good work on 64, and were the no:2 after Extasy. Many Amiga-groups were seen. Cave, Amaze, Midnightsun... etc. Scoopex's Finnish guys released demos like 7 Sins and Mental Hangover, and gained eternal fame (happy to be famous, yes Sprayer & Zebi?). Skandinavian News 10 was relesed, and no more came. With SN's death, Accession fall into deep chasm and haven't yet got up. Group is alive, all old members are there still and they have managed to released something but nothing to compare into 88/89 when they were on biz. Just before christmas Byterapers did a desparate attempt to climb out of grave, and almost did it. Really much was going on, but when Grendel left to army, the new leaders ruined his whole work and (B) almost died. Grendel howewer returned after 2 months of army, and saved the group from death. 1991 And today. There is more people, more groups than ever. But the real top is very small, as big groups have swallowed the best single guys of most small groups. The best current 64-crews seem to be Victims (ex-Extasy = Rockstar & Servant) and Dead Sector. Beyond Force is moving completely to Amiga, they have slowly been releasing some demos & even a real brilliant and warmly welcomed musicdisk. The Amiga-side is known by most, but let's have a repeat. The top CONTINUE-->


groups of date are Scoopex (silent, rumours telling about new demo coming but who knows? Zebra built a BBS called Zoo), Image (silent too, have a good BBS and talented members if they just could do something. As a chance, Image went and won the 1st price at Anarchy-party musiccompo. Stranger the Jarnis BBSman is getting very rich by selling cheap hardware), Vertigo (made a demo when care, but usually with good quality.The Fill'em All included humour so rare today, also have a good BBS), Bloodsuckers (very lazy, one of the OLD Elite-groups, Hoffi-laardiman keeps his BBS Thunderstruck which is sick, as group overall. Mostly a partygroup today, but who knows?. Are organizing a party at July with Scoopex and Byterapers), Frantic (got famous with their few but good demos, and keep riding with rumours about coming real COOL demo. Hope they won't disappoint us with fast routines with no IDEA at all), Byterapers (another OLD Elite-group, very silent from January, because almost died. Now again on back with coming products. Oldest Finnish group alive, also most famous Finnish party-arranger group - yearly since 88), Complex (another OLD elite-group, were long time silent as death, but lately begun taking new members and rising. Managed to relesed after LOOONG pause new issue of their MAGGY-mag,issue 9, but mag had lost much of its quality. as a funny thing they threw the coder of mag, Python, out of group immediately after its release. Are storming world democharts, and climbed in TWO MINUTES BACK TO FINLAND'S NO:1 DEMOGROUP at Society-party), Accession (OLD Elite, only silence... Have tried to resurrect Skandinavian News many times, but never succeeded. capable but LAZY as all OLD ELITE groups) Other current groups are for example Wizzcat (again rising, been releasing slowly good demos & an interestingmusicdisk), Euphoria (children of concrete & steel, mostly a swappergroup but have released a few small demos also), Society (new,party at June, most have heard but don't know about the group itself. Rumours tell they are making a good demo), Vectra (new, and seemingly capable of big things), Beyond Force (OLD, told before), Grace (new & small).... And comment to Zine #9's story about Finnish Elite... CONTINUE-->


It's not completely as you say. It's not all drinking and being crazy. One may do anything he/she wishes, drink or be crazy. But it's not that everyone is. The old Elite, say for example: Yip & Stubucrash of Pure Byte, Zados, Axa, Gryzor, Icebreaker/X-Men, Grendel/Byterapers, Zebra,Reward/Scoopex, Moku/ Accession, Hack-Man, Hazor/Beyond Force, Finnish Gold, Hoffi,CC/Bloodsuckers + some else. We aren't all drunk, and there's no way to get to the OLD Elite. Of course it's possible to rise to GROUP/GUYS Elite by making lots of good demos, but to OLD Elite? NOOO! Not by drinking, being crazy or anything. One can't get there, it's a closed INSIDE-RING where outsider's usually have no coming. Exception was Irwin (Masse Von Kaapa) who was in the right place in right time (DDG Digiparty 88, slept under flag-pole and got lost in woods) - he was so ultimately funny looking that no-one could resist him, so he was accepted to our small ring. Friendship, yes. Of course you can chat and go with us in parties, be friends elsewhere but it doesn't give you the friendship of years with other olders, THE feeling one has done something for the scene during the years, THE proudness of being here since the beginning.Neither can GROUP ELITE be reached by drinking (note to Slayer & Zebra: only beer makes it possible, but sure you weren't ALL the time drunk while making Mental Hanged), as who can produce lots of quality things while all time drunk? Shortly: we aren't all drunks or crazy. Some of us have grown out of it, sure many have noticed changesat myself for example?? And there is no way to get into OLD ELITES! Grendel of Byterapers Inc.


FINNISH UPLOADER CHART NO.3 16TH OF JULY '91 F I N N I S H T O P - 1 0 U P L O A D E R S # UPLOADER GROUP BYTES L.T ADVANTAGE # BBS +-----+-------------+-------------+-------------+-----+------------+-----+ | 1. | EDDIE & ICE | ACTION | 382.292.988 | 1 | 86.924.684 | 4 | +-----+-------------+-------------+-------------+-----+------------+-----+ | 2. | POLARBEAR | DUAL CREW | 335.882.059 | 2 | 51.750.473 | 5 | | 3. | SCUM BAG | CRUSADERS | 186.306.666 | 3 | 28.805.353 | 5 | | 4. | SAWBLADE | FRANTIC | 138.789.594 | 4 | -----.--- | 5 | | 5. | BRAGGART | COMPLEX | 137.845.312 | 8 + | 52.193.726 | 3 | | 6. | HOFFI | ACTION | 120.359.605 | 5 - | 16.818.626 | 3 | | 7. | DER HM | COMPLEX | 109.525.129 | 7 | 23.364.042 | 5 | | 8. | CATMAN | WIZZCAT | 102.807.773 | 6 - | 12.245.479 | 4 | | 9. | SPINHEAD | ALPHAFLIGHT | 83.233.661 | NEW | ??.???.??? | 5 | | 10. | ZEBRA | SCOOPEX | 82.182.319 | 9 - | 30.807.177 | 3 | +-----+-------------+-------------+-------------+-----+------------+-----+ L.T = LAST TIME ... ADVANTAGE = ADVANTAGE SINCE LAST TIME # BBS = NUMBER OF BBS' COUNTED


T O P U P L O A D I N G G R O U P S : GROUP BYTES UPLOADERS ----------------------------------------- 1. DUAL CREW [ 335.882.059 ] [ 1 ] 2. COMPLEX [ 247.370.441 ] [ 2 ] 3. CRUSADERS [ 186.306.666 ] [ 1 ] 4. FRANTIC [ 138.789.594 ] [ 1 ] 5. WIZZCAT [ 102.807.773 ] [ 1 ] WE CALCULATE YOUR BYTES ONLY IF YOU BELONG TO TOP-20 AT LEAST TWO OF THE BBS' BELOW, OTHERWISE YOU'RE OUT... AND ON THE GROUP CHART WE CALCULATED ONLY MEMBERS WHO ARE IN SF-TOP-10... THE LIST ABOVE IS BASED ON TOP-UPLOADER-LISTS FROM THESE SIX BOARDS IN FINLAND (IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER) : BBS GROUP SYSOP ----------------------------------------------------------- CONCEALED DIMENSION COMPLEX BRAGGART NIGHT SHIFT IMAGE STRANGER THUNDER STRUCK ACTION HOFFI WATCH TOWER COMPLEX DER HM ZEN LANDIA ALPHA FLIGHT JHL ZOO SCOOPEX ZEBRA ChArT DoNe By : ZebRa / ScOoPeX & HaKa / DuAl CrEw


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*************************************************+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ * The Flashing Bytes WHQ !! *+Contact Frantic at: + * *+Frantic (important) + * We are searching for new divisions all over *+P.R + * Europe !! We are sure not everybody knows *+02100 Espoo + * who we are, what we are and why we are but *+Finland + * maybe you believe that we are a cool team !?! *+ + * *+100% answer to LAMERS & LOOSE+ * So if you want to built up a division of *+LAMERS ONLY!!!! DISKS=NO ANSW+ * Flashing Bytes or if you are a single dude *+OR JUST SEND 10 DISKS WITH YA+ * searching for a new group then don't wait *+NEWEST WARES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!+ * for others, try us !! *+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ * * ****************************** * We actually have divisions in Germany and * *SCOOPEX! * * England, and our WHQ is in Germany !! * *PO.BOX 530 * * * *SF-80161 JOENSUU * * If you think you are cool enough to be in * *FINLAND! * * Flashing Bytes then write to : * *---> NO DISK - NO ANSWER <--* * Kai Buehler, Im Brettspiel 6 * ****************************** * D-7518 Bretten 1, West Germany * ****************************** * * *COMPLEX * * Oh, I've forgotten : Flashing Bytes have * *P.O.BOX 60 * * a totally legal world headquarter, but * *15871 HOLLOLA * * of course not only legal divisions ! * *FINLAND * * * *DISK -> ANSWER * * You can also write me for legal elite swap !! * ****************************** * * * ************************************************* Aki Sihvonen * * _ _ _ _ / _ Kasakkaent 26 A 6 * * (_ (_) /\/\ |_) |_ |_ \/ / /\/\ic |_)air 15830 Lahti * * | /\ / Finland * *******************************************************************************


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************************************* *JANITOR!---------------------------OF* * BEER IS OUR ELIXIR * * * ************************************* * For some fast'n'cool trading try * * * * 2 reach us under this address: * * ENERGY * * * * POSTE REASTANTE * * J/\NITOR/REBELS! * * 7500 KARLSRUHE 21 * * POSTE REASTANTE-SEJS * * GERMANY * * 8600 SILKEBORG 13, DK. * * * * !-- NO FAKED STAMPS! --! * * NO DISK = NO BEER * * * ************************************* * Especially phreakers/sysops/etc. * * CONTACT THE SPECIAL BROTHERS!!! * * are quaranteed an answer.Normal * * * * rules 4 the rest (disk(s)....). * * SEND YOUR OWN PRODUCTIONS TO: * * * *-----------------------------------* *REBELS------------------------DENMARK* * ONLY M. HOLOPAINEN ONLY * *************************************** * ELITES, T.K. 3A17 ELITES, * * YO! Tony/AGONY is looking' 4 new * * PLEASE! 45150 KOUVOLA PLEASE! * * contacts....... * * FUNLAND * * I swap esp. DEMOS and some * *-----------------------------------* * gamez'n'utils.... * * OR CALL ME AT: +358-51-18412 * * U can throw me a letter to this addy* * AND ASK FOR MIKKO... * * Tony/AGONY * ************************************* * Saiekuja 11 * * * * SF-78500 Varkaus * * PROCYON/EQUINOX * * U can call me too: 972-14105 * * PO.BOX 96 * * (in Finland, ask 4 Toni) * * 02770 ESPOO * * Disk(s) and long letter: * * FINLAND * * 100% answer!!!! * * * * Greetz 2 all my contacts!!!!!!!! * * PS. Paljon diskeja (3.5"DDSS) * *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* * mielellaan TDK:ita, SIITOS!! * * Doc Alban rulez!!!!! * ************************************* ***************************************


********************************* **************************************** * FOR TRADING THE LATEST WARES! * * * * * * CONTACT * * - V - E - R - T - I - G - O - * * * * * * S O C I E T Y * * /\/IMROD OF \/ERTIGO! * * * * JUKKA AIRAKSINEN! * * * * MALJATIE 12 B 7 * * FOR ELITE MAILTRADING: * * 90250 OULU! * * ---------------------- * * FINLAND * * * * * * TWILIGHT / SOCIETY * *-> YOU CANT BEAT THE FEELING <-* * LEPPATIE 8 * * * * 96190 ROVANIEMI * ********************************* * FINLAND * * NO UNKNOWNS - ONLY ELITES * * * ************************************************************************** * FALCONS * F HAVE OPENED A DIVISION IN GERMANY F A WE ARE STILL SEARCHING MEMBERS AND CONTACTS A L WE ESPECIALY SEARCH CODERS AND MUSICANS . L C BUT SWAPPERS,MODEMTRADERS AND GFX-FREAKS ARE ALSO WELCOME !!! C O YA REACH FALCONS UNDER : O N N S POSTFACH 10 08 22 HARALDSBORGVE 2 IF YA NEED SOME HARDWARE S * 5620 VELBERT 1 DK-4000 ROSKILDE BOOTSELECTOR,VIRUSWARNER * * GERMANY DENMARK AND SO ON. WRITE TO THE * * (FOR GERMAN PEOPLE) (FOR DAENISH PEOPLE) PRIMARY ADRESS FOR A * * PRICELIST. * * AND PLEASE NO LAMERS ....!!!! * **************************************************************************


************************************* ***************************************** * PIIII! * *Contact Hyde/Complex for Amiga/St stuff* * Trade with me, or I won't trade * *P.o.box 60, 15871 Hollola, Finland!!!!!* * with you! Plaah... No interest. * ***************************************** * * ***************************************** * But if you have lots of Amiga's * * - H A R D L I N E - * * MUSICDISKS, then we are in same * * - the new legal star - * * harmony (I've got over 130).I * * - IS SEARCHING FOR MORE COOL - * * want more.. more...more..more.... * * - MEMBERS AND SWAPPINGFRIENDS - * * Never I have them enough! * *-- WRITE YOUR CRAZY LETTERS TO : - * * * *----- * (1-HAG OF HARDLINE) * --- * * Also I just LOVE strategy,rpg * * * M. NEUMANN * * * and simulations-software.Somehow * * * JOSEFINENANGER 12 * * * collect them too (never erase * * * 5620 VELBERT 1 * * * anything), so if there's anybody * *+ * G E R M A N Y * * * who likes them too just knock for * *++ 100% ANSWER TO ALL YOUR LETTERS + * * me! * *+ ESPECIALLY CODERS AND NO LAMERS + * * * ***************************************** * Grendel (/Byterapers Inc.) ******************************************* * Sankarinkatu 9A3 **Contact * * 74100 Iisalmi **Heatbeat of Rebels * * Finland **To Make The World A Better Place To Live* * tel. 358-(9)77-13192 Jukka ** * * **Antti Mikkonen * * BYTERAPERS INC. **Kuikanhuuto 1 as 13 * * Franticin suosittelema **SF-87250 KAJAANI * * 1986-1991 **FINLAND -no lamers- * *******************************************************************************


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============================================================================== SCUP - the worst thing you can get! ===================================== SPENNOSCANDIAN UNITED PLAYBOYS! THE GLORY MEMBERS OF SCUP ARE: ===================================== Belarus Write to: (for joining only) Borje Svensson Captain America Borje Svensson / Scup EinoLeino SCUP MAIL WHQ Janus 5 Salpatie 11 Jurgen 87700 Kajaani Karl Marx Finland Zpequ We are all members of some of the best groups in Finland! You don't know who we actually are, but good luck in guessing... We are always looking for new members! Especially new divisions in other countries are wanted... Watch out for our soon coming 'cool' productions! SCUP power since '88!! ============================================================================== For the latest warez Write to: Megazil/Paramount _ _ _ | Vommedalsv.54 (_ (_) |\/| |_) | e >< 430 50 Kallerd | Sweden SuXX FoReveR No disk = 4% answer


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